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Tim Weiman

Graves and Cornish's
« on: October 18, 2002, 08:31:50 AM »
I just picked up Graves and Cornish's new book "Classic Golf Hole Design, Using the Greatest Holes as Inspiration for Modern Courses" and from what I can see it is a book well worth owning.

There might be complaints that the authors presented nothing new, that they actually use illustrations from other well known books or that the photography is limited to black and white.

But, the book has a real seriousness to it, a kind of text book feel and it appears to be rich in documentation. If you want to understand what "classic holes" are all about, by all means go buy this book.

We are all enjoying a renaissance in books about golf architecture. It appears Graves and Cornish have made a very nice contribution.
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Craig James

Re: Graves and Cornish's
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2002, 08:44:42 AM »
I recently purchased this book as well and second all Tim's comments.  It is a book well worth owning.
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Tim Weiman

Re: Graves and Cornish's
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2002, 09:54:20 AM »
Craig:

Thanks. The book has both the tone and the content that I'd like to see more of here at GCA. Graves and Cornish set a good example for golf architecture discussion.
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THuckaby2

Re: Graves and Cornish's
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2002, 09:59:49 AM »
Tim:  interesting looking book.  Wise of you to leave off the man amazon.com lists and the third author, the writer of the forward... or maybe not... if anything might draw Tommy N. out of hiding, that's it!

I'm not sure if I'd enjoy a discussion group with ONLY this very serious tone, but some more of it would be interesting indeed.

TH
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Tim Weiman

Re: Graves and Cornish's
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2002, 12:43:11 PM »
Tom Huckaby:

I don't know anything about this guy Damian Pascuzzo and don't hold it against Graves or Cornish that he wrote the forward.

As for Tommy, I'd be surpirsed if he didn't enjoy the book.

Regarding the serious tone, I don't find it any different than what Tom Doak did with "The Anatomy..", do you?

Actually Graves and Cornish are rather refreshing. They obviously care about helping the reader learn and they provide lots of documentation.

You'll recall that on another thread I've argued that specific architectural features can be meaningfully documented with one or two pictures. Graves and Cornish provide lots of fresh evidence to support this thesis, if I may say so!
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THuckaby2

Re: Graves and Cornish's
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2002, 12:57:14 PM »
Tim W:

OK, my attempt at humor failed.

Tommy N. once called Damian Pascuzzo the anti-Christ in this very dg.  Perhaps now my humor passes?

Tim, as you can hopefully tell I don't take anything here very seriously.  I admire those of you who do, that's why I said we can sure use more of it.  And the tone of the book looks just fine to me... I own "Anatomy of a Golf Course" and it is has become an almost biblical text for me re how I feel about golf courses.  I truly meant to make no comment on this or any other book, and perhaps should have just left out my last sentence.

All the best,

TH
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WB_Salinetti

Re: Graves and Cornish's
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2002, 04:16:03 AM »
The book you are talking about is a text book.  Graves and Cornish have taught a class at Harvard for years.  Brian Silva has since taken over for Mr. Cornish.  The course and book are both very good.
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