News:

This discussion group is best enjoyed using Google Chrome, Firefox or Safari.


T.J. Sturges

I have come to believe that it is difficult for architects to build really strong par 5 holes.  I've always enjoyed the 4 1/2 par hole that is a par 5 on the card, and some courses have these, but in my opinion, it is rare to have a course with more than one interesting par 5.  

I recently played Tim Liddy's Trophy Club in Lebanon, Indiana for the first time in 2 years.  I had forgotten what an awesome job he did building the par 5's there.  3 of them are loaded with strategy, and the other one is a hole where he just built what the land gave him.

For those that have been there, you will know, but if you've not visited The Trophy Club, you should make it a point to get there, where you will enjoy:

#2 - Choices on the tee shot.  Choices on the 2nd shot.  Very interesting green complex.

#9 - Lots of strategy with the tee shot.  Lots of choices on the second shot...very interesting green complex.

#11 - Rip it from the tee, and then you can hit to the fairway on the left, the fairway on the right (divided by a huge bunker complex cut into a hillside), or try to knock it on the green...but a miss to the right and the ball runs off into a big hollow.  Very cool green complex.

#16 - My least favorite of the 4 par 5's, but a hole that plays along a creek, where Tim built a hole that the land dictated the golf hole for the most part.  A good looking hole, but much less strategic than the other 3.

What other courses would this panel nominate as having more than one great par 5?

TS
« Last Edit: August 31, 2006, 04:30:46 PM by Ted Sturges »

JSlonis

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2006, 04:44:56 PM »
Ted,

A few quick obvious choices off the top of my head...

Pine Valley GC

The Old Course

Augusta Nat'l

cary lichtenstein

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2006, 04:47:53 PM »
Highland Links

Lakota Canyon

Live Jupiter, Fl, was  4 handicap, played top 100 US, top 75 World. Great memories, no longer play, 4 back surgeries. I don't miss a lot of things about golf, life is simpler with out it. I miss my 60 degree wedge shots, don't miss nasty weather, icing, back spasms. Last course I played was Augusta

Phil Benedict

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2006, 04:52:34 PM »
TPC at Sawgrass.

Ted Kramer

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2006, 04:59:29 PM »
Lido.
#9 is a sheer brute
#16 is strategy and options galore

-Ted

john_stiles

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2006, 05:12:00 PM »
all four at  The Honors
« Last Edit: August 31, 2006, 05:15:18 PM by john_stiles »

Ryan Farrow

Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2006, 05:17:00 PM »
Oakmont has a great 3 shotter and a 2. 12 and 9 respectively. Number 4's not to shabby either.

wsmorrison

Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2006, 05:42:45 PM »
Jamie got one of two great courses in our district that only have 2 par 5s and all four are excellent holes.  Pine Valley's par 5s are the 7th and 15th.  The other club in the area with only two par 5s is Merion with its great 2nd and 4th holes.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2006, 05:44:40 PM by Wayne Morrison »

Tom_Doak

  • Karma: +1/-1
Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2006, 06:38:49 PM »
Sebonack.

Doug Wright

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2006, 06:43:21 PM »
Pebble Beach (14/18)
Twitter: @Deneuchre

Doug Ralston

Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2006, 06:47:14 PM »
Ted found these great par-5's at an accessible public course. You folks counter with courses that mostly are either private or too expensive for most golfers to play. Try countering him with courses of the same genre.

I will offer 'Big Blue', the University of Kentucky course now with public tee times tuesadys and thursdays. Beautiful course with some tough par-5's, I think 2 are reachable from the back, but you better be accurate. Water if not on one, and some very tough bunkers [well, tough for ME!] on the other. At $55, $45 with Lung Card, this course is a deal!

Ted Kramer

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2006, 07:06:22 PM »
Ted found these great par-5's at an accessible public course. You folks counter with courses that mostly are either private or too expensive for most golfers to play. Try countering him with courses of the same genre.

I will offer 'Big Blue', the University of Kentucky course now with public tee times tuesadys and thursdays. Beautiful course with some tough par-5's, I think 2 are reachable from the back, but you better be accurate. Water if not on one, and some very tough bunkers [well, tough for ME!] on the other. At $55, $45 with Lung Card, this course is a deal!

I hope your counting me along with the thread starting Ted . . .
Lido is right on the water in Nassua County and last I checked wasn't any more than $50 for out of towners to play.

-Ted
« Last Edit: August 31, 2006, 07:06:38 PM by Ted Kramer »

Tim Liddy

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2006, 07:34:20 PM »
Thanks for your nice thread Ted.  Another private course, Crooked Stick, with #5 -My first look at this Raynor style green scared me to death, so hard and dramatic, a great golf hole.  #9- No other golf hole like it anywhere –pure Dye with railroad ties along a dry creek bed and a Mackenzie green. I will never forget watching John Daley hit this golf hole in two shots – amazing.  Also saw Paula Creamer finish a front nine of 32 in the Solheim Cup.  I have been in love with her ever since (do not tell my wife).  

Ian Andrew

Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2006, 07:54:30 PM »
(Ignoring #11 which Cooke converted from a mid four to a very weak five....... )

The best set on any course is Highland Links. #6 along bending right along the ocean; the wildly tumbelling, tight and long 7th; the spectacular roller caoster 15th out towards the ocean; and the short uphill 16th with 1000's of volkswagon sized rolls in the fairway. Nothing - Pine Valley, Augusta, etc - holds a candle to those 4 holes.


Bill_McBride

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2006, 08:24:12 PM »
Pebble Beach (14/18)

Interesting, I've always enjoyed the challenge of #6 - can you drive it in the fairway and then make the carry up to the second fairway?  #18 is 3 safe shots.  #14 is not much of a challenge - UNTIL the green!  Then it's otherwordly with that drop off.  TV doesn't do it justice.

Patrick_Mucci

Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2006, 08:30:07 PM »
Ridgewood (NJ)

# 3 E
# 2 C
# 4 W
# 8 W

Bill Brightly

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2006, 08:48:06 PM »
Saucon Valley has 3 courses and 10 really good par 5's. And the 15th on the Old not on the list yet, but will be the best after a Fazio redisgn lengthens the tee shot (forced to hit iron now)  and removes tees. Beautiful sweeping dogleg left downhill with cross bunkers to deal with on second shot.

Craig_Rokke

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2006, 09:07:06 PM »
Plainfield CC

Paul Payne

Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2006, 10:01:53 PM »
I think Harvester has three very good par 5 holes. None can be had in two unless they are two exceptional shots. All three are different from one another and each offers its own unique strategies.

Steve Lapper

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2006, 10:02:39 PM »
Sand Hills

Baltimore CC

Friars Head
The conventional view serves to protect us from the painful job of thinking."--John Kenneth Galbraith

Paul Richards

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2006, 10:16:00 PM »
Call me a 'homer', but I'll hold Beverly's four five pars against just about any group of four at one course.



 :) ;)
« Last Edit: September 01, 2006, 07:03:31 AM by Paul Richards »
"Something has to change, otherwise the never-ending arms race that benefits only a few manufacturers will continue to lead to longer courses, narrower fairways, smaller greens, more rough, more expensive rounds, and other mechanisms that will leave golf's future in doubt." -  TFOG

Tom Forsythe

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2006, 10:34:07 PM »
I will agree with those choosing Highlands Links. The seventh has to be one of the best par 5's anywhere.

Jimmy Muratt

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2006, 12:14:48 AM »
Boston Golf Club #1, #15
Old Sandwich Golf Club #6, #10, #13
Kingsley Club #1, #7, #14

Greg Clark

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2006, 12:49:32 AM »
Blackwolf Run - River
#8
#11
#16

michael j fay

Re:Courses with more than one strong par 5 (Praise for Tim Liddy)
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2006, 08:40:01 AM »
Plainfield-especially after the work that Gil Hanse has done on number 16.

Tags:
Tags:

An Error Has Occurred!

Call to undefined function theme_linktree()
Back