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Lloyd_Cole

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Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2006, 01:18:52 PM »
Quote from: Glenn Spencer

 There are people that act like it is our fault, for taking a cart, that there are carts in this world.
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Glenn

Come on. Nobody is calling you evil. But your logic is off, here. If nobody took them, they would disappear.

Brent Hutto

Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #51 on: August 21, 2006, 01:21:50 PM »
Is Kiawah goig to shuttle walkers between the 9th and 10th to speed play?

They did when I played there a couple years ago.

Well, actually they shuttled me from the ninth green to the clubhouse for a bowl of she-crab soup and half a turkey sandwich and then they shuttled me over to the tenth tee. Delicious.

Not that pace of play was an issue. I believe I was the only person on the course all day so I was hardly holding anyone up by taking my time over my soup. That was a fun day. BTW, they also had someone to give you a ride to the range and from there to the first tee.

Doug Wright

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Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #52 on: August 21, 2006, 01:30:28 PM »
Is Kiawah goig to shuttle walkers between the 9th and 10th to speed play?

They did when I played there a couple years ago.

Well, actually they shuttled me from the ninth green to the clubhouse for a bowl of she-crab soup and half a turkey sandwich and then they shuttled me over to the tenth tee. Delicious.

Not that pace of play was an issue. I believe I was the only person on the course all day so I was hardly holding anyone up by taking my time over my soup. That was a fun day. BTW, they also had someone to give you a ride to the range and from there to the first tee.

Yes, I think they will do the shuttle thing, but when I played last month my caddie and I just hopped onto the cart with a solo rider (the other 3 in my group rode) from 9 green to the clubhouse and then on to 10 tee (passing by a small pond near the new clubhouse that had 3 or 4 more alligators in it...  :o).

« Last Edit: August 21, 2006, 01:31:32 PM by Doug Wright »
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Bill_McBride

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Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #53 on: August 21, 2006, 01:35:52 PM »
Rihc shot 90 once, for 27 holes at Painswick!  8)

Walking only, by the way.

As far as I'm concerned, anybody can do whatever they want about walking or riding, I just think both should be allowed at any time.  I prefer walking but as I said earlier in this thread, when it's 94* and very humid, I will be in that cart.

Not sure I've seen the phrase, "self-righteous pricks," on this website before.  Not even from Barney.  That could be a recent low in decorum.  :-X  

Glenn Spencer

Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #54 on: August 21, 2006, 01:43:49 PM »
Rihc shot 90 once, for 27 holes at Painswick!  8)

Walking only, by the way.

As far as I'm concerned, anybody can do whatever they want about walking or riding, I just think both should be allowed at any time.  I prefer walking but as I said earlier in this thread, when it's 94* and very humid, I will be in that cart.

Not sure I've seen the phrase, "self-righteous pricks," on this website before.  Not even from Barney.  That could be a recent low in decorum.  :-X  

Might want to take into consideration the post that it was in response to.

Mike Vegis @ Kiawah

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Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #55 on: August 21, 2006, 01:44:07 PM »
Is Kiawah goig to shuttle walkers between the 9th and 10th to speed play?  


We already do.  We shuttle them to the 1st tee, between 9 and 10 and back to the clubhouse after the round (although we won't need to do that anymore once the new clubhouse is completed right behind the 18th green...

Glenn Spencer

Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #56 on: August 21, 2006, 01:47:10 PM »
If four walkers are playing a nassau on a hot day and someone can't find a ball, what happens exactly?
« Last Edit: August 21, 2006, 01:47:30 PM by Glenn Spencer »

Rick Shefchik

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Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #57 on: August 21, 2006, 01:58:43 PM »
He who lost the ball takes the longest walk in sports.
"Golf is 20 percent mechanics and technique. The other 80 percent is philosophy, humor, tragedy, romance, melodrama, companionship, camaraderie, cussedness and conversation." - Grantland Rice

John Kavanaugh

Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #58 on: August 21, 2006, 02:14:21 PM »
Do any of you rabid walkers carry divot sand along with you.  Our caddies always carry sand but I know I never do when I carry my own..

Lloyd_Cole

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Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #59 on: August 21, 2006, 02:22:35 PM »
If four walkers are playing a nassau on a hot day and someone can't find a ball, what happens exactly?
Glenn
I'll always offer my opponent a drop as if it were ball seen to enter hazard. Aha! Walking has made cheats of us.

Bill_McBride

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Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #60 on: August 21, 2006, 02:22:40 PM »
In response to what?  ??? ???  Your post quoted below is what started a series of progressively more intense posts on the pros and cons of walking.  You're pretty thin skinned if those posts call for a comment like "self-righteous pricks."


Do people that walk and carry their bag think that they are better than people that take a cart? Are the people that want to relax and hit a few golf shots and have somewhere for their beer and conversation, are they from the 'wrong side of the tracks?' Are they bad people?

cary lichtenstein

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Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #61 on: August 21, 2006, 02:45:34 PM »
Now now boys, "sticks and stones will break my bones...."
Live Jupiter, Fl, was  4 handicap, played top 100 US, top 75 World. Great memories, no longer play, 4 back surgeries. I don't miss a lot of things about golf, life is simpler with out it. I miss my 60 degree wedge shots, don't miss nasty weather, icing, back spasms. Last course I played was Augusta

Wayne_Kozun

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Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #62 on: August 21, 2006, 02:50:29 PM »
In response to what?  ??? ???  Your post quoted below is what started a series of progressively more intense posts on the pros and cons of walking.  You're pretty thin skinned if those posts call for a comment like "self-righteous pricks."


Do people that walk and carry their bag think that they are better than people that take a cart? Are the people that want to relax and hit a few golf shots and have somewhere for their beer and conversation, are they from the 'wrong side of the tracks?' Are they bad people?
I think it was my response "Let them play the other courses if they want to ride" (in my best Marie Antoinette voice).  This is the policy at The Old Course, if I remember correctly, are the St Andrews Links Trust SRPs as well?
« Last Edit: August 21, 2006, 02:52:27 PM by Wayne_Kozun »

Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #63 on: August 21, 2006, 03:03:09 PM »
Bill is right on the money down here. July and August are for riding.

Bill_McBride

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Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #64 on: August 21, 2006, 03:05:11 PM »
Not to mention most of June and September!

Brent Hutto

Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #65 on: August 21, 2006, 03:09:10 PM »
Do any of you rabid walkers carry divot sand along with you.  Our caddies always carry sand but I know I never do when I carry my own..

Yes, I do. Another good reason to use a three-wheeler, that sand gets heavy when the bag's on your shoulder.

John Kavanaugh

Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #66 on: August 21, 2006, 03:11:56 PM »
I'm sorry, I don't consider using a pull cart as walking.

Bill_McBride

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Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #67 on: August 21, 2006, 03:19:05 PM »
I'm sorry, I don't consider using a pull cart as walking.

This is going beyond ridiculous and has entered the realm of absurdity!  :o  How do you think that Sun Mtn speed cart gets around the course, do you pull it behind your electric cart?  What about using a caddy, is that not walking?  Or do you have to physically carry your bag for it to be walking?

John Kavanaugh

Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #68 on: August 21, 2006, 03:24:45 PM »
Bill,

Of course using a caddie is walking..it is traditional.  I just draw the line at mechanical devices.  Even with an electric cart you still walk..you have to draw the line somewhere.  Would you consider a three wheeled pedal cart walking or a wind aided sail cart walking..I doubt it.

Brent Hutto

Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #69 on: August 21, 2006, 03:38:49 PM »
John,

Of course you are welcome to consider whatever you like.

For my part, when I move about under my own power by placing one foot in front of the other I use the word "walking" to describe that activity. But perhaps my mama taught me the wrong word and I should refer to it as "perambulation" instead.

PS: I prefer not to use the word "caddie". I think what you really mean is "rich man's beast of burden".

John Kavanaugh

Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #70 on: August 21, 2006, 03:47:34 PM »

PS: I prefer not to use the word "caddie". I think what you really mean is "rich man's beast of burden".

Brent,

I'm a bit surprised at that comment...and sorry If that is the image you have of me because I have taken caddies at the two Dixie Cups I think we have shared.

Glenn Spencer

Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #71 on: August 21, 2006, 03:51:35 PM »
Whatever Brent meant, John, it was hilarious, ;D either way.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2006, 03:51:58 PM by Glenn Spencer »

Bill_McBride

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Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #72 on: August 21, 2006, 04:07:02 PM »
Mick Jagger: "I'll never be...your beast of burden."

So THAT'S what he was singing about - he didn't want to be a caddie!

 ::)   Time for a nap.

Rick Shefchik

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Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #73 on: August 21, 2006, 05:26:27 PM »
I played Hillcrest in St. Paul on Sunday, using my Speed Cart. The course is not idly named. I got more exercise pushing the Speed Cart up the steep hills on 7, 10, 13 and 17 than most people get on a treadmill at Bally's.

Don't tell me that's not walking.
"Golf is 20 percent mechanics and technique. The other 80 percent is philosophy, humor, tragedy, romance, melodrama, companionship, camaraderie, cussedness and conversation." - Grantland Rice

tonyt

Re:Walking is Dead!
« Reply #74 on: August 21, 2006, 05:35:19 PM »
If four walkers are playing a nassau on a hot day and someone can't find a ball, what happens exactly?

He will hit his provisional. There is rarely a more profoundly stupid call in golf than that of "I saw where it went in, I'll find it". He probably will, but an extra few seconds to bunt another one wouldn't have killed him.


Glenn,

You are getting a raw deal on here from the walkers. No doubt about it. A very orthodox religion if ever there was one. But you aren't helping by calling them on it. You want them to live and let live, but you'll need to do the same. Sometimes, it takes one who played the game where there were never any carts to know all the intrinsic benefits missed by riding.

I'm about 60/40 in favour of walking. I favour carts when playing twice (or more) in one day, or occasionally on a course that is tough to walk where I've already played it on foot a number of times, playing with a buddy who always rides (who's company is superb regardless), or on the final day of any of my golf trips with the mob where we are all decidedly in less than ideal condition than we were on day 1. Or to use the Florida summer example, on any January-February Melbourne day of 105 degrees and a hot dry northerly wind.

But I've carried for 36 holes only recently, and will happily go to a destination where carts are banished and be thankful for it.