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Phil

Thomas and LA North
« on: June 25, 1999, 07:58:00 PM »
Ran and John,I really like your site - I just found out about it. I have been reading your write-ups and by in large agree with most of the points you mention. The one that I disagree with is LA North. Thomas built a much better course than exists today. Shouldn't you be more critical of the subsequent revisions? After reading your Yeamans write-up, clearly the virtues of a successful restoration are well evidenced. Shouldn't you be lobbying for the same for LA North? I look forward to reading your other write-ups and will send you my thoughts for discussion.

Ran

Thomas and LA North
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 1999, 08:18:00 AM »
I think you are right. There is no excuse for letting lesser architects mess with a great course

Bill M

Thomas and LA North
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 1999, 08:21:00 AM »
I don't fully appreciate all the changes that LA North has been through. At one point, the 17th hole was a par three with a wicked green but conversely now it is one of the best par fours on a course full of great four pars. Whose to say which is better?

Ran

Thomas and LA North
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 1999, 10:19:00 PM »
Geoff is the man who would best have a strong opinion as to which version is better. Geoff can be reached at a very good discussion group called www.traditionalgolf.com  He better than anyone I know has studied and understands the work of George Thomas.

EAM

Thomas and LA North
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 1999, 02:11:00 PM »
I really enjoyed your interview with architect Tom Doak. From three very reliable sources, I understand that his new course, Riverfront Golf Club, near Suffolk, Va., is well worth the trip and is in surprisingly good condition for a new course. I am so glad your web site is now available and look forward to all the interesting, useful info you have gathered so far and to which I'm sure you will add.

Adam Clayman

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Re:Thomas and LA North
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2006, 04:34:02 PM »
Clouseau like-

bump

baump

"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing your whole life." - Mickey Mantle

John Kirk

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Re:Thomas and LA North
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2006, 06:59:43 PM »
Rebump, and let me add that I had the great pleasure of playing the course earlier this year.  I thought the par 5 holes #2 and #8 were a mess.  Big problem with trees on those holes.  Back nine there is superb.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2006, 07:00:01 PM by John Kirk »

Michael Robin

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Re:Thomas and LA North
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2006, 07:06:16 PM »
John, I don't have the specifics of this quite right, but you might have liked 2 & 8 in their original form where I believe the current 8th green was the 2nd green with a bunch of risk/reward scenarios, and I believe the old 8th green was shorter and risk/reward was the design concept there too. If anybody has the exact details on this, please enlighten us.

Paul Richards

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Re:Thomas and LA North
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2006, 10:59:44 PM »
LA North is a great course.

What is the point of all this?

Is it that it was better before????  Were you there to witness this????

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"Something has to change, otherwise the never-ending arms race that benefits only a few manufacturers will continue to lead to longer courses, narrower fairways, smaller greens, more rough, more expensive rounds, and other mechanisms that will leave golf's future in doubt." -  TFOG

Adam Clayman

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Re:Thomas and LA North
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2006, 11:08:11 PM »
Paul, LA North has the bones of a great course. In it's current state, it's less than it could be. That is the point.

"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing your whole life." - Mickey Mantle

Paul Richards

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Re:Thomas and LA North
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2006, 11:10:42 PM »
Adam

Amen to that.

That's why they are going to do a restoration.  Hopefully, it will be faithful to the original.

"Something has to change, otherwise the never-ending arms race that benefits only a few manufacturers will continue to lead to longer courses, narrower fairways, smaller greens, more rough, more expensive rounds, and other mechanisms that will leave golf's future in doubt." -  TFOG