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Paul Richards

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Anyone play Erin Hills yet?
« on: August 06, 2006, 10:52:40 PM »
Is it for real?


Is it not??


thoughts???
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re:Anyone play Erin Hills yet?
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2006, 10:55:54 PM »
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Geoffrey Childs

Re:Anyone play Erin Hills yet?
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2006, 11:12:12 PM »
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John Foley

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Re:Anyone play Erin Hills yet?
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2006, 08:48:44 AM »
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Adam Clayman

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Re:Anyone play Erin Hills yet?
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2006, 09:47:02 AM »
the usga awarding this course an event smacks of matters the entity should avoid.

plus Paul, It all depends on what your definition of it is.
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Dan Moore

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Re:Anyone play Erin Hills yet?
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2006, 11:17:08 AM »
Just heard second hand from someone who played there last Friday that the greens are soft and slow and you need to roll it in the fairways to get a decent lie.  I'm sure last week's heat required a fair amount of water and didn't help them on the grow-in, maintenance side of things.  
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bakerg

Re:Anyone play Erin Hills yet?
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2006, 12:42:52 PM »
I played the course on Thursday.  At this point the course is in a bit of rough shape as they are still growing in a lot of spots.  They were tweaking the first hole so there was a lot of construction there.  There were a couple of bunkers that still needed sand added.  And there were a couple areas that had been sodded that the sod did not take, so there were strips of dead grass near a couple of greens.

Regardless of that there are some very unique holes.  Number 2, 9A, 10, & 18 I thought were among the best out there.  

As for all the hype that this course was generating before it opened,  I don't think it deserved it.  This is an average course in my opinion.  I thought the bunkering and finishing work on the course was amateurish.  I couldn't understand why they didn't use Dan & Dave as they had in the past on this course.  The greens are fine but don't expect Friar Head's type movement.  

They did a great job with the routing but I just thought they came up short in too many other areas.  I would put this course behind Wild Horse in my personal rank of courses.  Maybe I played it too early, but I doubt I will go back.  For that amount of money ($169) I would rather go play Blackwolf in the off-season.  
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peter_mcknight

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Re:Anyone play Erin Hills yet?
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2006, 01:11:58 PM »
Can anybody post a scorecard of the course, both from the 7800 back tees and the 7100 middle tees so I can have a yardage in mind when reading the comments about the course--that would be most appreciated. Their website doesn't have the scorecard and/or routing on it yet.
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tlavin

Re:Anyone play Erin Hills yet?
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2006, 01:43:20 PM »
I turned down an invite to play it today after seeing the photos posted here a week or so ago.  The turf looks like it is not really ready for play, so I figured I'd wait til next season...It looks enticing...
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JR Potts

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Re:Anyone play Erin Hills yet?
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2006, 03:28:09 PM »
I just cancelled my September 13th tee-time.  I will rebook in May.
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bakerg

Re:Anyone play Erin Hills yet?
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2006, 03:39:30 PM »
Peter- I didn't grab my scorecard before I left.  Otherwise I would post the yardages for you.  They also are using a temporary scorecard for now until they get the actual ones printed.  

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Tom_Doak

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Re:Anyone play Erin Hills yet?
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2006, 05:49:51 PM »
I was there a few days before the opening, so I didn't play.

Here are the yardages:

1st 624/574
2nd 351/333
3rd 501/451 par 4
4th 412/372
5th 503/443 par 4
6th 236/188
7th 201/184  (Whitten's Dell)
8th 482/472
9th 496/450

10th 652/624
11th 414/315
12th 468/432
13th 216/193
14th 615/505
15th 360/345
16th 181/170
17th 481/445
18th 631/614

Out 3806/3467
In   4018/3643

Tot 7824/7110 par 72

I'm not sure how to rate some holes where the back tee seems clearly just there to boost the overall yardage.  The only comment I have for now is that it looked too early to judge the course and therefore too early to open it.
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Matt_Ward

Re:Anyone play Erin Hills yet?
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2006, 05:52:53 PM »
Have to wonder if opening the course this soon is really to capitalize on the press contingent that will be relatively nearby with the PGA Championship in Illinois ?

Opening a course too soon is akin to pushing a Broadway musical before the dancers / singers are ready for curtain call time.

The potential negative spins can clearly make an impact on how people will react.
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PThomas

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Re:Anyone play Erin Hills yet?
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2006, 05:52:58 PM »
they built an "extra" set of tees as "insurance" in case the pros starting hitting it even farther someday
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Paul Richards

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Re:Anyone play Erin Hills yet?
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2006, 10:39:48 PM »
I've heard from a 'good source' that this course deserves to be in the top 40-50 in the US.

Anyone who's played it agree?

 ???
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bakerg

Re:Anyone play Erin Hills yet?
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2006, 11:22:28 PM »
In the World where Rich Harvest and Trump Whatever makes those lists nowadays I say sure.  

But in reality it does not deserve Top 40 anything.  I don't think at this point its Top 5 in the state.  

But I could have been jaded having played it after Ballyneal.
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Adam Clayman

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Re:Anyone play Erin Hills yet?
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2006, 11:22:41 PM »
I guess not!

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I played the course on Thursday.  At this point the course is in a bit of rough shape as they are still growing in a lot of spots.  They were tweaking the first hole so there was a lot of construction there.  There were a couple of bunkers that still needed sand added.  And there were a couple areas that had been sodded that the sod did not take, so there were strips of dead grass near a couple of greens.

Regardless of that there are some very unique holes.  Number 2, 9A, 10, & 18 I thought were among the best out there.  

As for all the hype that this course was generating before it opened,  I don't think it deserved it.  This is an average course in my opinion.  I thought the bunkering and finishing work on the course was amateurish.  I couldn't understand why they didn't use Dan & Dave as they had in the past on this course.  The greens are fine but don't expect Friar Head's type movement.  

They did a great job with the routing but I just thought they came up short in too many other areas.  I would put this course behind Wild Horse in my personal rank of courses.
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bakerg

Re:Anyone play Erin Hills yet?
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2006, 11:23:59 PM »
You beat me to it Adam.  
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