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brad_miller

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Great Comment on Golf Architecture
« on: October 26, 2002, 04:59:38 AM »
Who said this and what courses might he/she been referring to?

"The finest courses in the world are not  necessarily the prettiest, and very rarely are they among the "best groomed."  I think the best golf courses are the most "natural" courses--those that integrate, or appear to intergrate, seamlessly with their surroundings.  Typically, these surroundings are sandy, scrubby and more rugged than pretty; and the presence or strenght of the wind at such places is invariably a crucial factor."
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Tom MacWood (Guest)

Re: Great Comment on Golf Architecture
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2002, 06:15:42 AM »
How about some hints. Here's a wild guess, Ran Morrissett and Prarie Dunes.
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A_Clay_Man

Re: Great Comment on Golf Architecture
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2002, 06:19:24 AM »
Hunter?

Anyone who's been labeled a basher on this site?
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brad_miller

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Re: Great Comment on Golf Architecture
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2002, 06:37:34 AM »
Current archie, not one of the fellows spoken about to often on GCA. Not Ran, but yes it could have been him talking about many of his favorite courses. Sounds like it could also have been Hunter, Thomas, AM, Maxwell, Tillie...... It sounds like a "golden ager" and it isn't Coore, Doak or Hanse.
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Steve Curry

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Re: Great Comment on Golf Architecture
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2002, 06:46:37 AM »
I tried to cheat and used the whole text in a search, combined with the word golf, ironically I thought I had it when Rich Goodale's MHC on Dornoch came up first, but alas he seems to have used the most matched phrases to the quote.

My first thought was C.B on Lido?

Steve
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brad_miller

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Re: Great Comment on Golf Architecture
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2002, 06:54:22 AM »
Don't know if Lido would have fit the bill, wasn't it almost entirely manufactured? Don't most of the CBM/Raynor green ends and bunkers  have a somewhat manufactured look that can be seen quit clearly in many cases. Not that places like NGLA, Fisher's, Yale..... aren't all world. :)
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brad_miller

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Re: Great Comment on Golf Architecture
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2002, 07:17:46 AM »
Maybe Sand Hills and Pacific Dunes had little if any earth moved, but I believe Friar's Head and CPC as examples did have more than a little earth (sand) moved, just don't ask me where :)
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brad_miller

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Re: Great Comment on Golf Architecture
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2002, 07:19:38 AM »
This quote comes from a essay in one of the best recent coffee table books about golf in a certain region of the world.
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Tim Weiman

Re: Great Comment on Golf Architecture
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2002, 07:34:03 AM »
Brad Miller:

Without cheating, i.e., checking the source itself, I'm going to guess it was Paul Daley.

Does memory serve me?
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Tim Weiman

Re: Great Comment on Golf Architecture
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2002, 07:42:59 AM »
Brad Miller:

Now that I've cheated,  I can see I was on the right trail.......but nobody is ever going to guess who provided that quote!

We are not talking about just any "coffee table book"......
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brad_miller

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Re: Great Comment on Golf Architecture
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2002, 07:50:21 AM »
Tim, your posts will serve as the next glue, the author of the quote and essay was one of the reasons that interested me.
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Tim Weiman

Re: Great Comment on Golf Architecture
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2002, 07:54:20 AM »
Brad Miller:

The source was long overdue when it was published......if ever there was a book that made you want to jump on a plane.......
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jayc

Re: Great Comment on Golf Architecture
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2002, 03:12:58 PM »
Brad & Tim,
Did you see that Paul Daley has a new one out next week?
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Tim Weiman

Re: Great Comment on Golf Architecture
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2002, 07:34:53 PM »
JayC:

I was aware that Paul was working on another book but didn't expect it this soon.

Thanks for the heads up.
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brad miller

Re: Great Comment on Golf Architecture
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2002, 05:04:09 AM »
From an essay by Nick Faldo, think its page 59 from Paul Daley's "The Sandbelt" which is eye opener to the charm and natural beauty that awaits those that travel to Melbourne.
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jayc

Re: Great Comment on Golf Architecture
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2002, 06:46:14 AM »
Tim,
I think the AU edition is out next week, with the US to follow in January.  It should be quite interesting with so many architects providing their "perspectives".
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