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Alfie

Huggan likes Doak
« on: July 09, 2006, 11:03:28 AM »
Thought you might like to read todays Scotland On Sunday article featuring Tom Doak's Scottish influence.

hope the link works, if not, just go to www.scotsman.com/sport

http://sport.scotsman.com/golf.cfm?id=1000892006


Alfie.

David_Tepper

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Re:Huggan likes Doak
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2006, 12:06:17 PM »
Excellent article. Thanks for the post & link.

Brian Phillips

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Re:Huggan likes Doak
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2006, 12:08:14 PM »
Is there anyone who (deep down) doesn't like Old Tom...(he is getting old now..)
Bunkers, if they be good bunkers, and bunkers of strong character, refuse to be disregarded, and insist on asserting themselves; they do not mind being avoided, but they decline to be ignored - John Low Concerning Golf

Josh Smith

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Re:Huggan likes Doak
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2006, 12:12:46 PM »
Smith likes Doak too.

Thanks for the link.  It was interesting to look at some of the early archived Discussion Group contributions from TD and see that Archerfield was on the drawing board years back, that was a surprise.

TD, when did you first start to know this opportunity would present itself,  ie... following the opening and rave reviews of which of your courses?

Tom_Doak

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Re:Huggan likes Doak
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2006, 12:25:24 PM »
That was a very nice article.  Thanks to John if he is lurking, which he sometimes does here.

I think I come across differently in Scotland, because I'm just more comfortable there.

One thing John didn't use from our interview was that it occurred to me as we finished that The Renaissance Club will probably be more highly regarded in Scotland than by visiting Americans.  It's a bummer that we aren't out building in the sand dunes next door [which are off limits], and Americans may be disappointed because it's not as dunesy as Barnbougle or Pacific Dunes; whereas the Scots don't mind a bit of difference and will probably accept it for what it is, an excellent test of golf on a hybrid site.  I'm really pleased with the detail work everyone has done over there in creating true Scottish-styled bunkers from the flattish terrain.

Josh:

In that interview with Ran several years ago, we were waiting to begin construction on the two courses next door, which were going to be developed by John Ashworth.  John had contacted us back in '97 on the recommendation of Archie Baird, the golf art collector who lives in Aberlady.  I've played golf with Archie several times over the years and we were his first pick to design a course in the Scottish ideal.  But, John A. lost control of the property, David Russell did a new design for the developer, and we thought we'd never get to work over there.

Fortunately, the developers of the adjacent property learned of my interest in the previous job, and were familiar with our work from Lost Dunes, and contacted us about The Renaissance Club three years ago.

The irony is that John Ashworth had also done his own layout for the property we're working with now -- with a friend of his from Wales and some assistance from David Savic.  So we walked around this property years ago, too, and I still remembered John's routing which I thought was pretty good.  The configuration of the land is slightly different now but there are a couple of holes in our plan which are essentially John's, most notably the par-5 tenth.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2006, 12:27:23 PM by Tom_Doak »

Josh Smith

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Re:Huggan likes Doak
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2006, 12:43:26 PM »
Tom,

     Thanks for the info.  Archie Baird sounds like a guy i would like to meet, great taste in career and in architects.  Keep up the inspiring work.
 
     Had dinner with Ran and Jim O. about a month ago.  Ran had just played Ballyneal and in a few words, said he loves it!

Josh

     

Alfie

Re:Huggan likes Doak
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2006, 01:36:46 PM »
Josh,

I reckon you probably WOULD like Archie, and can, if you're ever in the Gullane vicinity and arrange a meeting at his recently refurbished golf museum. A truly great "character" and genuine person !

Tom said ; "That was a very nice article.  Thanks to John if he is lurking, which he sometimes does here."
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I think you must have impressed Mr Huggan to get such a good write up - given his views on this and that. (I'll refrain from using the technology word)  :P

If you're right, Tom. And John does LURK around here - then why not post some bloody thoughts instead of just lurking ? I believe we are singing from the same, or at least similar, hymn sheets John ! I'll sponsor your remarks if that's what's required John ?


Brian,
There's only one "Old Tom" - and he's deid  :(


Alfie.