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John Kavanaugh

Based on easy access and climate I would have to guess Riviera may have the lead...

I would define an architectural aficionado as someone who seeks out private courses where they do not know a member..

David Kelly

I would define an architectural aficionado as someone who seeks out private courses where they do not know a member..

Thats kind of an odd definition since I know a lot of people who seek out private courses where they do not know a member yet wouldn't know Alister MacKenzie from Spuds MacKenzie.
"Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent." - Judge Holden, Blood Meridian.

John Kavanaugh

David,

I wanted to include people like me who are not in the business and guilty of trying to access private courses.  Of all the aa's I meet it is amazing how high of a percentage have played Sand Hills.  I'm really struggling to come up with the leader out east...

rjsimper

Would not ANGC fit the bill?

Kirk Gill

Seems to me I've read a lot of critiques by folks who've never played the courses on which they are holding forth.

Mr. Kavanaugh, do you mean which private courses have gotten the most "outside" play by the "aficianado class?"
« Last Edit: June 21, 2006, 05:17:30 PM by Kirk Gill »
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John Kavanaugh

Would not ANGC fit the bill?


Ryan,

How often do you meet a guy who has actually played ANGC...I know three or four.

John Kavanaugh



Mr. Kavanaugh, do you mean which private courses have gotten the most "outside" play by the "aficianado class?"

Sure...and by knowing a member I mean knowing a member.  If I were to ask a guy who I know is a member to get me on his course it wouldn't count as knowing a member.  For example, I am currently trying to get on Hazeltine and I don't know a member...yet..
« Last Edit: June 21, 2006, 05:33:43 PM by John Kavanaugh »

rjsimper

Would not ANGC fit the bill?


Ryan,

How often do you meet a guy who has actually played ANGC...I know three or four.

True, but of those that have played the course, unbeknownst to you or I, wouldn't you think that a large percentage are playing as friends of friends of members - how many people actually know an ANGC member?

I know nothing of the play demographics at ANGC, but I'd guess that there are a good deal of guest rounds played as something farther removed than a member and his buddies.

(Perhaps I am missing the central point or qualifier of the query)

John Kavanaugh


I know nothing of the play demographics at ANGC, but I'd guess that there are a good deal of guest rounds played as something farther removed than a member and his buddies.


I would guess you are wrong...

rjsimper


I know nothing of the play demographics at ANGC, but I'd guess that there are a good deal of guest rounds played as something farther removed than a member and his buddies.


I would guess you are wrong...

I freely admit that I very well could be

But proportionally speaking, if there are X rounds per year here and Y are played by people who do not know the guest personally, might it be reasonable that the ratio of Y/X is greater than the ratio at say, Baltusrol where there are 10X rounds played (10Y/10X)
« Last Edit: June 21, 2006, 05:44:18 PM by Ryan Simper »

Glenn Spencer

I would define an architectural aficionado as someone who seeks out private courses where they do not know a member..

Thats kind of an odd definition since I know a lot of people who seek out private courses where they do not know a member yet wouldn't know Alister MacKenzie from Spuds MacKenzie.

That is classic David, can I use that one sometime... Please?

Bob_Huntley


I know nothing of the play demographics at ANGC, but I'd guess that there are a good deal of guest rounds played as something farther removed than a member and his buddies.


I would guess you are wrong...

Ryan,

John is right. Generally a guest is sharing a cabin with a Member. I cannot think of anything that would put one in a worse position than to have a Roberts or a Hootie saying  "Now tell me about this friend of yours."


Bob

rjsimper

Ryan,

John is right. Generally a guest is sharing a cabin with a Member. I cannot think of anything that would put one in a worse position than to have a Roberts or a Hootie saying  "Now tell me about this friend of yours."


Bob

Fair enough - good thing I freely admitted I could be wrong ahead of time - that's interesting, though, and a great point (and visual scenario to play out) about the cabins.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2006, 07:14:35 PM by Ryan Simper »

ed_getka



I would define an architectural aficionado as someone who seeks out private courses where they do not know a member..

That's interesting, I would define that person as a belt-notcher. I would define an architectural aficionado as someone who seeks out courses that have the most interesting architectural features.
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