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Jud_T

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Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #100 on: April 26, 2012, 09:48:12 AM »
Bill,

That ain't gonna happen.  Pony up for the book,  It's well worth it IMO...
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Scott_Burroughs

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Re:How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #101 on: April 26, 2012, 11:08:18 AM »

I'm now at 88 (25 more Confidential Guide courses in six years) for a total of 502 points, 5.7 average.

Bill,

We're pretty close.  I'm at 89 courses for 522 points.


Mine are all U.S. except for one course (Port Royal in Bermuda when I was 19).  Overseas didn't happen when I turned 40....maybe 50 now....who knows?  Heck, I haven't even played in Canada.


As for the T-shirt, it at least should have a spelling error on it.  ;D   A Doke Scale 10 for quirk!

Cory Lewis

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Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #102 on: April 26, 2012, 08:31:43 PM »
Well I just spent 1/2 hour counting up my points and I was surprised.  I haven't looked in the book in a while and I discovered there were a lot of 4 & 5's I've added in the last couple years.  My total was over 1000 and my average was 6.2.  Just for fun I did my wife's total and she was 52 with a 5.2 average  ;D
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Mark Smolens

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Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #103 on: April 27, 2012, 10:32:43 AM »
Well I just spent 1/2 hour counting up my points and I was surprised.  I haven't looked in the book in a while and I discovered there were a lot of 4 & 5's I've added in the last couple years.  My total was over 1000 and my average was 6.2.  Just for fun I did my wife's total and she was 52 with a 5.2 average  ;D

Cory, I hope your wife doesn't look at this . . . a guy who tells the world his bride is a 5.2???

Doug Wright

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Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #104 on: April 28, 2012, 01:02:41 PM »
US 312, ROW (really just Ireland, Northern Ireland and Scotland) 221 Total 533
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Dave McCollum

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Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #105 on: April 28, 2012, 02:47:01 PM »
I’m far too lazy to enter this bragging contest by actually looking up the courses and coming up with a total.  Once, however, I did make a list (from my suspect memory) of the courses I played and assigned imaginary Doak numbers to each.  The list is in a spreadsheet, so easy to look up and do the arithmetic.  For the purpose of participating in this survey (How crazed are we?), here are my numbers:

Courses played—91
Total imaginary Doak points—446 (4.9 average)
Imaginary high/low lights—3 tens and 6 ones
Estimated courses with a Doak score—19 (7.11 average); 15 in Scotland/Ireland/N. Ireland
Estimated total Doak points—135 (from memory of reading the courses listed in the book)

Conclusions:  I don’t get out much and will play anywhere/anything; I’m not as big a nutcase as I thought judging by the leaders in the clubhouse; safely out of danger of being committed or being taken seriously.

Disclamer:  Only been playing avid golf as a crazy man for 15 years.  Only took it up when I thought that I was too old to be any good at it and, therefore, wouldn’t become addicted to trying to get better.  That didn’t work out, of course, about the addiction part, but was reasonably accurate in terms of competence.

Jason Topp

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Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #106 on: May 01, 2012, 12:47:28 AM »
411 - 65 courses.  I have a much better batting average overseas than I do east of the Mississippi.

Mark Saltzman

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Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #107 on: February 23, 2013, 12:57:40 PM »
854 Points Total -- Average Rating 6.14

585 US Points - Average 6.03

269 ROW Points - Average 6.56

Updated:

1037 Points Total -- Average Rating 6.21 (167 Courses)

756 US Points -- Average 6.10 (124 Courses)

281 ROW Points -- Average 6.53 (43 Courses)


Maybe I should get a T-shirt made up for anyone who gets to 1,000 points. 

When can I expect my shirt?
« Last Edit: February 23, 2013, 12:59:40 PM by Mark Saltzman »

cary lichtenstein

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Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #108 on: February 23, 2013, 03:39:19 PM »
1688 for me
Live Jupiter, Fl, was  4 handicap, played top 100 US, top 75 World. Great memories, no longer play, 4 back surgeries. I don't miss a lot of things about golf, life is simpler with out it. I miss my 60 degree wedge shots, don't miss nasty weather, icing, back spasms. Last course I played was Augusta

Mark Steffey

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Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #109 on: February 23, 2013, 04:42:04 PM »
now that i have a copy of my own, i see i got almost... nothing! :)

59 courses, 326 pts  (5.525avg)

18 states
1 province

1 nine
8 eights
5 sevens
19 sixes
11 fives
6 fours
8 threes
and a 1!  (fresh pond in cambridge mass)

Robert Mercer Deruntz

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Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #110 on: February 23, 2013, 10:46:54 PM »
1385 pts
Played the National when it would warrent a 0--3 club wind

Tom_Doak

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Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #111 on: February 24, 2013, 12:26:11 PM »
1385 pts
Played the National when it would warrent a 0--3 club wind

I hope you mean The National in Australia.

The National Golf Links of America would not warrant a 0 unless it was three feet underwater.

Gib_Papazian

Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #112 on: February 24, 2013, 12:52:54 PM »
I played Stone Harbor twice in one day, does having a double zero change my point total? Or is it like a par in a Stableford tournament?

Since I have multiple zeros, would that mean - under the theory that anything multiplied by zero equals zero - my total would be wiped out?

It has been a while, but I believe Tom warned that playing such a course would surely "poison your mind."

This might explain my frequent vectors into outer space.

Actually, I think we ought to be awarded *extra points* for playing incredibly bad golf courses - in film school we had a yearly "Bad Movie Marathon," the finale invariably being the classically bad "Plan Nine From Outer Space."

Then Cimino's "Heaven's Gate" was released and that spoiled the fun. Low-water mark or not, nobody wanted to sit through it twice - a bit like Van Helsing years later.

It might be worth turning this brag-a-thon on its ear and awarding a special prize to the player with the lowest aggregate of Doak points with a minimum of 20 courses.

      
« Last Edit: February 24, 2013, 12:55:01 PM by Gib Papazian »

Sven Nilsen

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Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #113 on: February 24, 2013, 01:00:12 PM »
Gib:

I'd suggest that whoever has the lowest average automatically wins the anti-snobbery thread, which seemed like some sort of contest to me.

Sven

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Gib_Papazian

Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #114 on: February 24, 2013, 01:19:27 PM »
Sven,

The way to win the "Anti-Snobbery" thread is to identify the Treehouse dweller who has played the highest number of courses so insignificant, they never made the Confidential Guide.

Or you can average then into the total tally of courses - in the book or not - awarding one point for each (provided they did not open after the last version was published).

If that is the case, I'm in the running for having played several hundred courses nobody has ever heard of - like going twice a week to watch a grindhouse exploitation movie. 
 

Robert Mercer Deruntz

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Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #115 on: February 24, 2013, 03:01:33 PM »
I was certainly relating to the snake infested wind exposed problem course far down the Mornington Penninsula.  Hope the Penninsula Club courses will achieve a Doak review in the new guide. 
I had the misfortune of playing Stone Harbor in a pretty big tournament.  I landed too many balls in the middle of the fairway vs trees and rough sideboards and missed more fairways than could ever imagine.  Still remember backing up a 6 iron more than 50 yards after landing a couple feet from an all the way back pin on the par 3 prior to Jaws.  First and only time I ever drove home from a missed cut and felt very good about my game!

Anders Rytter

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Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #116 on: February 24, 2013, 03:23:07 PM »
Sven,

The way to win the "Anti-Snobbery" thread is to identify the Treehouse dweller who has played the highest number of courses so insignificant, they never made the Confidential Guide.

Or you can average then into the total tally of courses - in the book or not - awarding one point for each (provided they did not open after the last version was published).

If that is the case, I'm in the running for having played several hundred courses nobody has ever heard of - like going twice a week to watch a grindhouse exploitation movie.  
 

I would be very surprised if the member that has played the most courses not in The Condidential Guide is from North America or GB&I.

Also, if this holds true, i would guess that the "Winner" has a fairly high average-Doak for the courses he/she has played that are in the book.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2013, 03:28:11 PM by Anders Rytter »

David Davis

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Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #117 on: February 24, 2013, 03:32:16 PM »
I guess I don't love competition I have no way of winning.

...but I still had to check.

391 pts total. Lots coming this year. Lots of in my opinion good to very good courses played that didn't get rated. Ahem...my home club, De Pan, Eindhoven, Le Zoute, Royal Waterloo and several others. Lots in the book I have no intention of ever visiting to be honest, unless at some point I live across the street. Highly unlikely.

Only 96 pts. gained in the US. Cali being good for 50 and Illinois being good for 28. Clearly as an American my US achievements are sad at best.

The easiest way to build up my totals....head to London and start playing Heathland courses it seems. Then hit New York and start writing letters to friends.

Frustrating exercise knowing that a mutual friend of Mr. Doak and myself has played in the neighborhood of like 2500 courses. I guess he's the winner. Congrats to him, plus even more amazing is that he seems to remember them all.
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Jim Smith Jr

Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #118 on: February 25, 2013, 06:38:04 AM »
1011 points
164 courses
6.16 average

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Joe Andriole

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Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #119 on: February 25, 2013, 05:24:27 PM »
Rainy day in Central Florida; fun exercise, many great memories, renewed respect for CG.
 
Doak Points:

1392 - USA
1429 - ROW

2821 - tot

It is truly remarkable how many courses Mr Doak has seen and given us good reason not to play

Matthew Petersen

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Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #120 on: February 25, 2013, 05:28:47 PM »
I played Stone Harbor twice in one day, does having a double zero change my point total? Or is it like a par in a Stableford tournament?

Since I have multiple zeros, would that mean - under the theory that anything multiplied by zero equals zero - my total would be wiped out?

It has been a while, but I believe Tom warned that playing such a course would surely "poison your mind."

This might explain my frequent vectors into outer space.

Actually, I think we ought to be awarded *extra points* for playing incredibly bad golf courses - in film school we had a yearly "Bad Movie Marathon," the finale invariably being the classically bad "Plan Nine From Outer Space."

Then Cimino's "Heaven's Gate" was released and that spoiled the fun. Low-water mark or not, nobody wanted to sit through it twice - a bit like Van Helsing years later.

It might be worth turning this brag-a-thon on its ear and awarding a special prize to the player with the lowest aggregate of Doak points with a minimum of 20 courses.

      

24 Doak-rated courses played for a grand total of 109 points, or a Doak average of 4.54.

There's a 0, a 1, and a 2 on my list. And those three courses are the ones I've probably played more than all the others combined.

Greg Gilson

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Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #121 on: February 25, 2013, 05:42:01 PM »
Can someone please type up the ratings and/or upload a spreadsheet? And my apologies to Tom and his publisher in advance if that implies plagiarism in any sort -- just trying to join the discussion!

Apologies to Tom but why is the above out of the question? I, too, would love to tot up my numbers and identify the gaps in my education!

jeffwarne

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Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #122 on: February 25, 2013, 05:52:04 PM »
Rainy day in Central Florida; fun exercise, many great memories, renewed respect for CG.
 
Doak Points:

1392 - USA
1429 - ROW

2821 - tot

It is truly remarkable how many courses Mr Doak has seen and given us good reason not to play


Leader in the clubhouse?
Well done
I'd argue that there are many courses in the book ranked 4 or below well worth playing
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Connor Dougherty

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Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #123 on: February 25, 2013, 06:36:15 PM »
Usually I find lists like this somewhat silly, but I enjoyed this one because it allowed me to think back on both the dog tracks and the great places I've been to. I've been lucky and hopefully I'm able to add to it for years to come.

252 points total. 44 Courses played, 5.73 average rating. I would imagine it goes up with the inclusion of the Bandon Courses, Cape Kidnappers, the Barnbougle courses, St. Andrews Beach, Rustic Canyon, etc.
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John Ezekowitz

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Re: How many Doak points do you have?
« Reply #124 on: February 25, 2013, 07:53:34 PM »
I have played 30 courses with a total Doak score of 201, for an average of 6.7. I guess I've made up for lack of quantity with lots of 6s, 7s, and 8s.

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