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PThomas

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time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« on: June 05, 2006, 09:21:41 AM »
should the tour keep using them?

Bonus question:  should ALL courses start to use them??
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Jordan Wall

Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2006, 09:24:06 AM »
no.

and...

no
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John Keenan

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Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2006, 09:24:57 AM »
Tour Yes

other  no vote
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wsmorrison

Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2006, 09:31:50 AM »
No furrowed bunkers
and
No rakes
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Kenny Lee Puckett

Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2006, 09:32:34 AM »
Yes.

Yes.

JWK

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TEPaul

Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2006, 09:35:31 AM »
Yes and Yes, they're more effective as hazards than what we now have in America.
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Bill Shamleffer

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Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2006, 09:38:07 AM »
Yes
(& at the majors they should use the old Oakmont rakes from pre WWII).

&

No
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Mark_Fine

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Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2006, 09:42:38 AM »
Yes for the tour.  

Hopefully, other courses will follow their lead as this is one of the better things they are doing for the game of golf.  
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BCrosby

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Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2006, 09:46:59 AM »
Yes and yes, if clubs are so inclined. It ought to be up to them.

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Tom Roewer

Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2006, 10:20:09 AM »
YES.  But in a wavy manner in the entire bunker if youre going to do it.  and NO
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Glenn Spencer

Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2006, 10:21:54 AM »
Yes and Yes
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Jeff_Brauer

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Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2006, 10:37:16 AM »
Seems like a better way to protect par at Tour events than other more expensive items.  Jack should get some kudos for trying it.

I will use this as an example for a current client concerned with maintenance costs to eliminate raking altogether for the small pot bunkers I plan.  We will see if the idea catches on as a maintenance saving practice.
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Nate Golomb

Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2006, 10:56:08 AM »
I didn't get to see a whole lot of the Memorial coverage but the shot Mickelson hit on Sunday from a fairway bunker explained alot. Hitting a huge hook just so he could swing down the rake line...

Yes and Yes...although no rakes wouldn't be bad either...

-Nate (The Gecko)
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Mike_Cirba

Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2006, 11:05:36 AM »
Furrows for Pros - Good
Furrows for All - Better
Unraked World - Priceless  ;)  ;D
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tlavin

Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2006, 11:09:02 AM »
NFW!
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Ryan Crago

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Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2006, 11:24:39 AM »
YES and YES... though i play mostly public golf, where bunker lies are a bit of a crap shoot anyway.
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Garland Bayley

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Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2006, 11:36:30 AM »
Yes and yes
or
no rakes and no rakes
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Adam_Messix

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Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2006, 12:07:11 PM »
Yes to Furrowed Rakes for all Play
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Dan Kelly

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Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2006, 12:11:02 PM »
Yes for the Tour.

Yes for any course that wants to go that way.
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Ted Kramer

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Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2006, 12:19:19 PM »
yes and yes.
or I'll just go with lose the rakes entirely.

-Ted
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Lyman Gallup

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Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2006, 12:26:11 PM »
Fine by me to go furrowed everywhere so yes and yes.  The bunkers are supposed to be hazards.  PGATour.com reports that the season sand save percentage (on the PGA Tour) is 49.1% while it was "only" 43.8% at the Memorial.  So while nearly all of them were unhappy about the rakes, it appears the furrows didn't bother the tour guys nearly as much as most expected.
« Last Edit: June 05, 2006, 12:27:00 PM by Lyman Gallup »
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Mike Vegis @ Kiawah

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Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2006, 12:27:51 PM »
Depends on the course.  What about "transition areas?"  Would you like to see furrows here?

« Last Edit: June 12, 2006, 11:36:23 AM by Mike Vegis @ Kiawah »
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Glenn Spencer

Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2006, 12:32:47 PM »
Quote from: Lyman Gallup on June 05, 2006, 12:26:11 PM
Fine by me to go furrowed everywhere so yes and yes.  The bunkers are supposed to be hazards.  PGATour.com reports that the season sand save percentage (on the PGA Tour) is 49.1% while it was "only" 43.8% at the Memorial.  So while nearly all of them were unhappy about the rakes, it appears the furrows didn't bother the tour guys nearly as much as most expected.

Maybe it didn't bother their percentage as much as we all thought. But based on Scott at No.5 they have to be accounted for and this will have a trickle down effect om strategy because a big number can happen now. Not before.
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Lyman Gallup

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Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2006, 12:50:56 PM »
I agree that the "big number" potential is certainly increased with the furrowed bunkers.
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Glenn Spencer

Re:time to vote: furrowed bunkers, yes or no?
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2006, 12:52:29 PM »
Quote from: Lyman Gallup on June 05, 2006, 12:50:56 PM
I agree that the "big number" potential is certainly increased with the furrowed bunkers.

This is what I think makes it just perfect for the tour and all of tournament golf. The possibility is there.
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