Tee on the back of a green?

[TEPaul]

BillS:

What if a player doesn't use a tee and just throws a ball onto the deck and say hits a 3 wood?  

[Mike_Cirba]

I've seen much more where the short-game, low-cut area around a green melds into the next tee with no change in cutting length.  Gil Hanse seems particularly fond of this type of feature and I have to admit a real fondness for it, as well.

It certainly beats all heck out of walking 30 yards to a cart, stuffing the clubs back in, and then driving some appreciable distance to the next tee.

I think it has to do with a feeling of continuity, of completness, of integration, and of connection.  

Is there anything more convivial than the waits that sometimes take place between groups on this type of course, where perhaps the folks behind wait to hit their approach until the group ahead hits their tee shots and is safely out of range?  I think it adds to the sense of camaraderie and companionship between golfers sharing a course, and one of the reasons the Old Course is such a shared, communal, quasi-religious, spiritual experience.

[Tyler Kearns]

1st tee at Capilano plays off the putting green near the clubhouse during major tournaments held at the club.

TK

[TEPaul]

Ironically this type of thing is a return to the way original golf once was played before the existence of separate teeing areas. In original golf the rule was that one must tee off within a single club length of the previous cup. Gradually that rule began to expand from two club lengths to six club lengths and eventually to separated teeing areas.

There wouldn't be much congestion if the rear of The Creek's #11 was used seeing as that Mother of a Biarritz green has greenspace that is a full 83 YARD LONG!

It was suggested, however, that if tee markers were used on the rear of that Biarritz that the flagstick should be placed on the front of the green for those occassions.

However, I am mindful of Mike Cirba's remarks about coziness and congeniality of this kind of thing so I will recommend to The Creek that for an additional interesting angle of tee shot on #12 that occassionally the tee markers for #12 be placed on the front of the Biarritz and the flagstick placed on the rear of the Biarritz.

I think it would be incredibly cozy and congenial if when a golfer was teeing off of on #12 from the greenspace teeing area on #11 that a golfer on the Biarritz tee was simultaneously winging a 3-iron directly over his head to a rear pin location on the Biarritz.

I wonder if it's possible to tee off on #14 from the Biarritz's tee? In these days of extreme distance increase you just have to find additional yardage wherever you can.

I wonder if there's a tee at Southampton G.C. where you could gain some additional yardage on Shinnecock's #12. If they would just take some trees down on the road it might be possible to catch a bit more yardage and an interesting angle off either the 4th or the 7th tee at Shinnecock to the 12th at NGLA. You want to talk about a brute of a par 4? How about #10 NGLA from the left tee of Shinnecock's #3? Awesome!!

Doak, did you think to design in some elasticity on any of the Sebonack holes from any of NGLA's tees? If you didn't you're losing your touch, Pal.