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mark chalfant

help re Deal (Ross) on nj shore
« on: April 06, 2006, 12:48:08 PM »
I believe Donald Ross worked some on this course of 6,200 yards.Are their classic Ross elements extant.? Is there movement in the land/fairway cotntours. Is Deal GC similar in
character to Seaviews  Ross course.  thanks

Doug Braunsdorf

Re:help re Deal (Ross) on nj shore
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2006, 01:02:06 PM »
Mark-

  From what I understand, Ross did redesign work there, to Van Etten's original course.  It's on flattish terrain, about a mile from the ocean.  Holes go in different directions, in contrast to Hollywood, where the majority of the holes run East-West, to take advantage of the prevailing seaside winds.  At Deal, holes run predominantly N-S, so the player has a different strategy to take into consideration.  Different shape of property as well--Hollywood is a long rectangular shape, Deal is a more square shape.  

  The tight routing at Deal reminds me a little bit of Ross at LuLu.  I'm not sure where this falls in his timeline--for some odd reason, I think it's relatively early in his design career.  

  I read somewhere, perhaps in NJ Golf News, that Kelly Blake Moran is doing work there.  Kelly, if you're reading this, can you add to the preceedings?  
"Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction."

Kelly Blake Moran

Re:help re Deal (Ross) on nj shore
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2006, 02:07:39 PM »
Doug,

I did renovation work at Deal.  It was not done with any consideration for the design work of Van Etten or Ross from a restoration perspective.  The work was done as a part of an overall master plan that focused on maintenance and infrastructure problems, and on some dissatisfaction with the existing design of the course.  I designed new greens for holes #12, #13, #15 and #17, did some fairway bunker work on some holes, and Pavelec, the contractor, has done a lot of drainage work there.

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