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PThomas

courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« on: April 18, 2006, 04:36:30 PM »
there's gotta be some, right?  Muirfield Village has lots of houses but aren't many of them hidden behind trees?  

I thought the ones at Soutehrn Dunes weren't too bad...I know others disagree...maybe I was jsut enjoying the course so much I didn't notice
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Ryan Crago

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2006, 04:40:46 PM »
Sahalee.
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Jay Cox

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2006, 04:42:06 PM »
Crystal Downs and Wade Hampton
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Andy Doyle

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2006, 04:43:18 PM »
I played Southern Dunes about a month ago and specifically paid attention to the houses as I've read a number of comments in reviews and on this site.

I think the only problem is in a couple of places (between 1 & 2?) where you have to cut between houses and drive the cart through parts of the neighborhood to get to the next hole.  On the holes themselves, I thought the houses were not intrusive at all.

Andy
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Tim Pitner

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2006, 04:50:09 PM »
Pebble Beach?
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Jimmy Muratt

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2006, 04:50:31 PM »
Mountain Lake has houses throughout the property yet they are not obtrusive at all nor are they really even noticed.  They are set well back and the green to tee walks are nil.  Check out Mike Sweeney's course profile and you'll hardly even see a house in one of his pictures.

The two keys to incorporating real estate property and a golf course are to keep the houses set back from the course and keep green to tee walks very short.  It is obvious right away whether the development was golf driven or real estate driven.
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Robert Emmons

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2006, 04:55:31 PM »
How about Loblloly and Medalist in Hobe Sound, Fla...RHE
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Tim McManus

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2006, 05:24:02 PM »
The housing development at Laurel Links is 29 homes right in the center of the property.  You can see homes from many holes but surprisingly they are not obtrusive.  They are setback far enough so that you never feel like you are playing through someone's backyard, and never have to go through housing during route from green to tee.
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Jason Topp

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2006, 05:27:16 PM »
Hilton Head
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Ryan Crago

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2006, 05:35:17 PM »
jimmy,

good points.  but are ANY developments golf driven anymore?
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Voytek Wilczak

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2006, 05:40:50 PM »
TOC?
 ;)
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Voytek Wilczak

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2006, 05:45:02 PM »
Quote from: Tim Pitner on April 18, 2006, 04:50:09 PM
Pebble Beach?

Some of the houses there are pretty ugly (their $20 mil pricetags notwithstanding) and bothered me quite a bit when I played.

The house of Chuck Schwab was just being built (that was about 5 years ago), so I dunno about that one. Word was at that time that he was planting mature, 30-foot palm trees on the property.... :o
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Doug Wright

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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2006, 05:46:18 PM »
Castle Pines GC
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Tim Pitner

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2006, 05:52:21 PM »
Quote from: Voytek Wilczak on April 18, 2006, 05:45:02 PM
Quote from: Tim Pitner on April 18, 2006, 04:50:09 PM
Pebble Beach?

Some of the houses there are pretty ugly (their $20 mil pricetags notwithstanding) and bothered me quite a bit when I played.


Voytek, I agree--thus, the question mark.  I admit to trying to pull the chain of the Pebble Beach apologists on this site by classifying Pebble as a housing course.  
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A_Clay_Man

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2006, 05:59:55 PM »
Who, or, what the heck is a PB apologist?

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Dan Boerger

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2006, 06:10:34 PM »
Casa de Campo. Indian Creek. Winged Foot. (I may be stretching it here.)
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Tim Pitner

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2006, 06:12:32 PM »
Someone who, in my opinion, overrates Pebble.  Please, I wasn't trying to go down this path--I was just trying to have a little fun.  
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Ryan Farrow

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2006, 06:16:24 PM »
Troon North. It was kind of neat seeing the size of some of the houses as your round progressed. They never lined both fairways and there was always a decent amount of room between each house. I would say that adobe style of architecture blended in with the desert landscape pretty well.
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Tony_Muldoon

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2006, 06:17:03 PM »
Anyone have more pictures of St Georges Hill nr. London which was the first course built in an upmarket housing estate?  It has beautiful houses well set back.  The British 'pop' singer Cliff Richard is currently selling his house for £6m and if I had the money I'd want to live adjacent to the first hole on this course.

Proof that the houses are unobtrusive comes from one of the holes now having the (unofficial) nick name 'Camilla's Gap'.  The legend has it that when Prince Charles wanted to spend some "quality time" with his then mistress, they would do it right next to the golf course, safe from prying eyes.


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jeffwarne

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2006, 06:39:58 PM »
North Berwick-I would add that the houses improve the experience (if that's possible)
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BCrosby

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2006, 06:50:36 PM »
Great catch Jeff.

Huge houses seem to overhang the course. It couldn't be more perfect.

Bob

 
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RJ_Daley

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2006, 07:06:28 PM »
I kinda think Riviera is tastefully situated from the surrounding mansions.
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Doug Sobieski

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2006, 07:26:55 PM »
Pinehurst #2
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Paul Jones

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« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2006, 08:02:16 PM »
I think Kiawah - River Course did a good job. It appeared that all homes that face the course had the rear of the house look similar to the front - usually have a nice entrance to the back door with a porch. All homes had to be placed in the middle of the lot, the size of the home is limited to the size of the lot and with ample trees surrounding the home.  I do not remember any homes behind a green.
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wsmorrison

Re:courses with houses that are NOT obtrusive?
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2006, 08:10:33 PM »
Merion, TCC Brookline, Indian Creek, TCC Pepper Pike, Pepper Pike Club, The Creek,etc.  They do it right on Long Island. The homes are set back from the property lines abutting the golf courses.  Good for the homeowners and the clubs.
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