Scioto (Ross/ wilson) vs Ohio classics

[mark chalfant]

Two questions about Scioto:

Is this layout one of Donald Ross' very best courses/routings

OHio has so many superb classic courses and hidden gems,
so is Scioto  a better arch. design than Kirtland, Camargo,NCR, Mayfield, Brookside, or Canterbury ?

[Glenn Spencer]

The routing- I have no idea, I have only played about 10 DR courses, so I can't say.As far as the other courses you listed.

Kirtland- I was not high on this place- I'll take Scioto
Camargo- can't go wrong with either, but I will take Camargo
NCR- played here a lot, no bad holes, Scioto has a few questionables, I'll take NCR.
Mayfield- have not played it
Brookside- this might have to go into overtime
Canterbury- among my personal 3 favorites in the country, I have not played it since the new equipment, but 10-12 years ago, I thought it was fair and damn hard and had a wonderful collection of short par 4's long ones, short par 5's long ones and the hardest par 3 in Ohio maybe-17

[Tommy Williamsen]

Given the land the routing is excellent.  He had roads to contend with and so there are corners to the routing.  I wondeer what he would have done if he had more space. 8, 9, and 18 feel a little cramped.

It is better than  Canterbury for sure. I think Camargo is spectacular and I have not seen it since the restoration was complete.  NCR is difficult and one of Dick Wilson't best.  But I pick Scioto above it.  I have not played the othere two.

[Glenn Spencer]

Tommy,

What issues do you have with Canterbury. If 13 plays as a par 4, I think it is almost perfect. Just wondering.

[Tommy Williamsen]

Glen, I don't really have any issues with Canterbury.  It is a wonderful course.  I especially like the back nine.  It is one of the best courses in the country.  I just think that Scioto and Camargo have better bunkering and green sites.  As for 13 I liked it as a par five.  It was fun and I was chipping for eagle.  Leave it as a par five please.  The finish at Canterbury is probably better than the finish at Scioto.  There are four strong holes to end the round.  I just try to hang on to what ever score I have.

[wsmorrison]

What do those in the know regarding Ohio golf think of The Country Club in Pepper Pike compared to the ones being discussed?

[Glenn Spencer]

IMO, The Country Club is the best course that Ohio has, that it is not one of the real big boys. I would put it ahead of Moraine and Columbus and Kenwood. I have not played this Sand Ridge or whatever the hell it is called these days, but I would play The Country Club again, before going out there. It has been forever since I played Brookside (Ross) but that is the only one that I can think of that might give it some competition, certainly not Brookside (Columbus).