Jason
Wren Dale? White Manor way blows it away. WD was a big disappointment to me. No stellar holes, no really bad ones, like a Hurdzan Frye course, you know? Very underwhelming and the short flagsticks sthick becomes more annoying rather than cloying or clever with each successive play. (They just about hit me in the cojones) Absolutely no chances taken - nothing daring. Most exciting feature? #18 tees are lower down the hill the further back set of tees you play. Doak 3-4.
H & F Exception: Shelter Harbout in RI, that's their best effort in the entire northeast. Doak 6, maybe a 7 to some.
Raven's Claw has excellent moments, it needs more grow in, was opened too early, needs another look by me, but a definite "best public in PA, but no Morgan Hill. Notably better than Hartfeld, not as good as Great Bear, however all worth playing.