Lookout Mountain

« **on:** February 08, 2006, 09:12:58 AM »

Wow! Pictures to follow but this course is fantastic and ranks right up there with the best of what I have seen. Great layout on a tough but beautiful property and some great tree removal too.

Steve

« **Reply #1 on:** February 08, 2006, 09:18:03 AM »

Steve -- Couldn't agree more with you. Great place and great work by Silva et al.
Did you meet Mark Stovall? He's a really good guy.

Can't wait for the pictures. . . .

« **Reply #2 on:** February 08, 2006, 01:57:12 PM »

Link below to Feature Interview with Mark Stovall and his predecessor Scott Wicker. Great supers and great guys.

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/interviewstovallwicker.html

« **Reply #3 on:** February 08, 2006, 02:12:32 PM »

Hopefully David Carroll will see this and chime in as he loved it too when he played there last year. I hope to get there this year.

« **Reply #4 on:** February 09, 2006, 07:26:05 AM »

Had the great fortune of spending time with Mark and Scott. Played Black Creek yesterday and can't say enough about both of these courses. Pictures Sunday.

Steve

« **Reply #5 on:** February 09, 2006, 10:48:17 AM »

Fantastic setting on top of Lookout Mountain...great grill room--I think I had a pimento cheese, tomato and bacon sandwich that was phenomenal---we visited during the week of the PGA and it was hot but not crazy hot as it can be down there in mid-August.

Personally, I am a member of a Raynor/Silva restoration, so to see their work at Lookout was a treat. The Eden was severe, the double plateau (17, I think) was tilted on a nifty angle and the redan #10 was great. I liked the set of par fives and my only real question was the degree to which the the original routing would have changed play--I think that 1 and 2 were actually 17 and 18 originally.

We also had the great opportunity to stay at and play the Honors and played Black Creek--Silva's tribute to Raynor which has been profiled here before....it's a great place.

Looking forward to going back this spring to play the renovated/restored Chattanooga CC right on the river!!

« **Reply #6 on:** February 09, 2006, 11:10:35 AM »

Did you play Lookout Mountian yesterday? I was up on Lookout Mt. yesterday and it was a little cold and breezy for my tastes. Since I havent played LMCC in many years I took advantage of enough daylight and my cars heater to drive around the perimeter and see the course again, and I have to say that I hope to get out there again soon (preferably when the weather is a little warmer).

I had just finished playing a little (but mostly touring around) Rick Robbins new course south of LMCC up on the Lookout Mountian ridge called Canyon Ridge. There were some spectacular views, the terrain is a bit severe in places, but I am looking forward to getting back there as well when the weather is warmer and I have the fortitude to play it all.

I guess I have been aclimated to the South after living down here for more than 10 years because I just cant handle the cold like I used to.

« **Reply #7 on:** February 12, 2006, 12:30:03 PM »

We played LM on Tuesday and BC on Wednesday. Both days were okay, sunny and 45.

The pictures don't have a lot of contrast and don't come close to showing the wonderful movement of the terrain. I do very much like the playability of the dormant bermuda and the bent greens were fantastic, fast and true.

Apt name

What a skyline green, first I've heard of repelling to do tree removal

There are some gorgeous ledge outcroppings on the property and this one has the 6th back tee on top of it.

Looking back.

There is a slight drop off the back of the Short.

« **Reply #8 on:** February 12, 2006, 12:43:17 PM »

Great photos Steve.

I am in the area a lot but have never had a chance to play Lookout yet. I love the picture looking back up the fairway (#6?), the left to right slope looks absolutely sadistic.

« **Reply #9 on:** February 12, 2006, 12:57:13 PM »

Paul,

Thanks and thats the 5th, yes the tee shot is to the left rough.

Steve

« **Reply #10 on:** February 12, 2006, 03:22:26 PM »

When you are rAPPELLing, don't forget the telephone poles!

« **Reply #11 on:** February 12, 2006, 03:23:56 PM »

I assume this is Lookout Mountain near Chattanooga, TN.

If so, how was the area Civil War ground preserved and respected by any golf uses that may have intertwined?

« **Reply #12 on:** February 13, 2006, 06:51:18 AM »

Steve

The colour is very grey, but I expect very playable. What are the average winter temperatures in this area (min and max)? How many days does it drop below freezing (if any)?

At my course down under, we have couch (bermuda) that goes dormant, but not as grey as that. Perhaps two or three mornings of frost a year, with a cold day ranging from say 34 F thru 45 F, but a typical winter day ranging from 45 F thru 55 F. I assume you are colder than this - correct?

We mow our couch fairways for nearly 7 months of the year, but play year-round!

James B

« **Reply #13 on:** February 13, 2006, 06:57:32 AM »

James,

I was on a trip from our Great White North and am only guessing, but would say that they have cold nights from December to March, enough to keep the bermuda dormant. I do know that Scott and Mark both said that as mild as our January was the bermuda was trying to break in places.

Cheers,
Steve

« **Reply #14 on:** February 13, 2006, 08:02:49 AM »

In the Chattanooga area, Bermuda typically goes completely dormant around Halloween and breaks dormancy toward the end of March. Routine mowing is performed from mid April to mid October. The dormant surfaces play well until late winter/early spring when the rains tend to pick up as does the mud on your ball.

Winter lows are often in the 20's, occasionally in the teens, and rarely in the single digits. Afternoon highs will range from the 30's to the 60's. Yesterday's high temperature was 36 and I am currently watching the snow fall outside my office window. Wednesday is expected to be near 60.

Needless to say, it is a roller coaster here in the winter, but no complaints. Good luck, New Englanders.

« **Reply #15 on:** February 13, 2006, 09:53:22 AM »

The high at Lookout Mountain Golf Club on Sunday was 28 with a low this morning of 22. We have snow on the ground with a temp of 23 at 9:50 am.

Mark Stovall

« **Reply #16 on:** February 13, 2006, 10:56:18 AM »

Scott and Mark,

Great time and we obviously got lucky with the weather. Many Thanks!

Steve

« **Reply #17 on:** February 13, 2006, 02:52:58 PM »

Steve, Scott and Mark

thanks for the weather info - it gets colder than I expected in the south. Sounds like it is colder than Canberra (Australia's inland capital) gets in winter (they get down to below 20F overnight, occasionally, but still get to over 40F max everyday).

I now understand the colour of dormant bermuda in Tennessee.

James B

« **Reply #18 on:** February 25, 2006, 03:09:41 PM »

I love the difficult fairway contours are they generally a thing of the past?

Steve

« **Reply #19 on:** February 25, 2006, 09:30:42 PM »

Have not played LMGC, but did spend an enjoyable few hours south of there, still on the Mtn, at Canyon Ridge which just opened this last year I believe.

http://www.pbase.com/bret/cridge

http://www.canyonridgeclub.com/html/main.htm

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