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Steve_ Shaffer

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How do Scottsdale golf courses stay green?
« on: February 09, 2024, 12:04:54 AM »
It’s complex but also really clever...not withstanding all the rain we're having in the desert.
Tens of thousands of golf fans, some of them sober and fully clothed, will flood the grounds of TPC Scottsdale for a tournament known as “the greatest show on turf.”The Waste Management Open is a spectacle, all right.
To watch it come together — the grandstands and pavilions, the dizzying logistics of seating and safety, foot traffic, food and beverage — is to marvel at the time and money involved.

What’s easy to forget is the event’s most vital input.
The greatest show on turf takes place on, well, turf, which depends on many things but on one thing more than any other.
None of this happens without water.
“It’s our most precious resource,” says Brandon Reese, director of golf course operations for TPC Scottsdale.
Where that resource comes from and how it is managed — in an arid region, in a time of drought — is itself a story of sophisticated planning that touches on many of the tangled issues surrounding golf and water use in the West. In debates over those issues, golf’s critics and defenders tend to cast the industry in one of two ways: as an environmental blight that’s particularly egregious in the desert, or a robust economic engine that doesn’t get due credit for the sustainable strides that it has made.



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Josh Sens is the author of this article. Among other things he's a Golf Journalist,Senior writer with Golf Magazine; restaurant critic for San Francisco Magazine.
Co-author, with Sammy Hagar, of Are We Having Any Fun Yet?





https://golf.com/news/features/waste-management-open-water-turf-irrigation
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Matt_Cohn

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Re: How do Scottsdale golf courses stay green?
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2024, 01:34:22 AM »
You copy and paste a lot of articles.

Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: How do Scottsdale golf courses stay green?
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2024, 10:04:50 AM »
@ Matt Cohn:
It's better than posting " someone told me this or that."

"Some of us worship in churches, some in synagogues, some on golf courses ... "  Adlai Stevenson
Hyman Roth to Michael Corleone: "We're bigger than US Steel."
Ben Hogan “The most important shot in golf is the next one”

Ian Mackenzie

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Re: How do Scottsdale golf courses stay green?
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2024, 12:41:36 PM »
I always thought that there was "green dye" in the fertilizer they used....seriously.

Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: How do Scottsdale golf courses stay green?
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2024, 05:58:50 PM »
@ Ian Mackenzie:
From what  I understand, they just "paint" for the TPC  Tournament every year.
My club, in a 55+ community in AZ with 3 courses, will "paint" as needed depending on the temperature or rain or if new spots are required.  We do about  160, 000 rounds per year. I was on our Golf Committee for about 5 years and now attend meetings that are open to all .  We have finished 2 of 3 courses for restoration of  greens, bunkers, fairways, tee boxes and irrigation without an assessment. 
 
"Some of us worship in churches, some in synagogues, some on golf courses ... "  Adlai Stevenson
Hyman Roth to Michael Corleone: "We're bigger than US Steel."
Ben Hogan “The most important shot in golf is the next one”

Tom_Doak

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Re: How do Scottsdale golf courses stay green?
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2024, 08:35:09 PM »
One thing I learned from going to the Houston Open at Memorial Park is that the PGA TOUR is big on paint.  They do not want ANY unsightly brown spots showing up on TV, because they think it would make the host course or the sponsor look bad.  If there's a dirt spot, it gets painted.

David Wuthrich

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Re: How do Scottsdale golf courses stay green?
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2024, 09:15:32 AM »
One thing I learned from going to the Houston Open at Memorial Park is that the PGA TOUR is big on paint.  They do not want ANY unsightly brown spots showing up on TV, because they think it would make the host course or the sponsor look bad.  If there's a dirt spot, it gets painted.


Isn't that funny, because green does not always equal better!!

Wayne_Kozun

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Re: How do Scottsdale golf courses stay green?
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2024, 02:24:28 PM »
I always thought that there was "green dye" in the fertilizer they used....seriously.
Is that the same as dyeing the dormant bermuda with green dye?  Isn't that an option rather than overseeding to keep the course from being brown in some areas.

SB

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Re: How do Scottsdale golf courses stay green?
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2024, 07:33:58 AM »
The vast majority of the green color on golf courses in Phoenix is from overseeded rye grass.  It's alive and growing, in contrast to the dormant yellow bermuda, so it uses water.  Some courses are experimenting with paint, but it doesn't look like grass, and it certainly doesn't play like grass because it's still dormant bermuda under the paint.


In Phoenix, winter is the high season, so golf courses need to play great to get top rates, so until someone figures out how to keep dormant bermuda from being a muddy mess any time it rains, overseeding will continue. 

Carl Johnson

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Re: How do Scottsdale golf courses stay green?
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2024, 10:25:10 PM »
O.T., More from the People's Open (link should work): https://wapo.st/49cH0FL

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