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Craig Sweet

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Is Dream Golf Resorts the Alterra of Golf?
« on: February 11, 2024, 12:36:04 PM »
Is this the model for an exclusive golf experience?  Will there be an Ikon Pass?  Does Dream Golf Resorts add to their portfolio by purchasing other resorts?
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Ben Sims

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Re: Is Dream Golf Resorts the Alterra of Golf?
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2024, 12:52:17 PM »
Craig,


Alterra and VMR offer passes to 1) get people on the mountain and spend money else where and 2) no one would come if every single day you skied was $250. Dream Golf doesn’t have either if of those issues really.


I just don’t see. You’ve mentioned it several times and I don’t see many comparisons between the two entities.
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Tommy Williamsen

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Re: Is Dream Golf Resorts the Alterra of Golf?
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2024, 12:55:18 PM »
I don't see how either the Ikon Pass or the Epic Pass relates. I pay my $700 for the Epic Local Pass and ski 30 days at Vail Resorts. I don't see how Dream Golf could do anything comparable.
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Is Dream Golf Resorts the Alterra of Golf?
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2024, 07:12:19 PM »
Cabot seems way more interested in buying and renovating courses than the Keisers do.


But the big difference is that in skiing it’s somewhat possible to build a local monopoly.  That’s not going to happen in golf.
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SB

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Re: Is Dream Golf Resorts the Alterra of Golf?
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2024, 09:21:04 AM »
Quote from: Tom_Doak on February 11, 2024, 07:12:19 PM
Cabot seems way more interested in buying and renovating courses than the Keisers do.


But the big difference is that in skiing it’s somewhat possible to build a local monopoly.  That’s not going to happen in golf.


Actually I've seen it done, believe it or not.  Canongate Golf had a membership in Atlanta that gave you full access to 15 private clubs, and it was VERY successful.  Heritage Golf did it with 4 clubs on the north side of Atlanta although that was structured a bit differently.  Both groups were bought by ClubCorp and modified to fit their multi club group, which is also a bit different, but nothing like IKON. 
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Keith Williams

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Re: Is Dream Golf Resorts the Alterra of Golf?
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2024, 09:40:38 AM »
Quote from: SB on February 13, 2024, 09:21:04 AM
Quote from: Tom_Doak on February 11, 2024, 07:12:19 PM
Cabot seems way more interested in buying and renovating courses than the Keisers do.


But the big difference is that in skiing it’s somewhat possible to build a local monopoly.  That’s not going to happen in golf.


Actually I've seen it done, believe it or not.  Canongate Golf had a membership in Atlanta that gave you full access to 15 private clubs, and it was VERY successful.  Heritage Golf did it with 4 clubs on the north side of Atlanta although that was structured a bit differently.  Both groups were bought by ClubCorp and modified to fit their multi club group, which is also a bit different, but nothing like IKON.


I grew up in the Canongate system.  All the Joe Lee and Rocky Roquemore golf one could wish for!
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