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mike_malone

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 Which course goes by this name?
« Last Edit: January 05, 2006, 10:08:23 AM by mayday_malone »
AKA Mayday

Bill_McBride

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Re:Ault Grey Toon ?
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2006, 01:53:44 PM »
"Auld grey toon" not a course but a city - St. Andrews.

mike_malone

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Re:Ault Grey Toon ?
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2006, 02:03:08 PM »
thanks
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Bill_McBride

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Re:Ault Grey Toon ?
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2006, 04:38:38 PM »
And there's nothing more beautiful than the town in the background as you head for home on the Old Course!  I think one of the larger steeples is the aiming point on #14 Long, sort of like the house on the far off hill at #8 Pebble Beach!

Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Ault Grey Toon ?
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2006, 04:46:53 PM »
thanks

Mayday,
I refuse to believe that you didn't know this.... (St. Andrews=Auld Grey Toon)

I suspect you must have been hitting the Fox Chase brand of special punch...

mike_malone

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Re:Ault Grey Toon ?
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2006, 06:29:36 PM »
Tommy,

  There is much I am uncertain about; I wanted to go to a good source for proof.

     Have you noticed the new Golfchannel promos for movies. There is a snippet of " Gentleman's Game".
AKA Mayday

Bill_McBride

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Re:Auld Grey Toon ?
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2006, 06:38:47 PM »
Mayday, I LOVED that movie, but does Gary Sinise always have to play the grumpy but loveable Lt Dan character?

wsmorrison

Re:Auld Grey Toon ?
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2006, 07:22:24 PM »
Mike,

I see you know as much about vernacular as you do about golf course architecture  ;D

"auld" gee, I wonder if it sounds like the way Scots say old.  Auld Lang Syne...keerist you probably just sang that song a few days ago and had no idea what it meant (Old Long Ago).

I'll give you one guess what "grey" means.

"toon" sound just so happens to sound like the Scots saying town.

Mike, do yourself a favor.  Message me offline on stuff like this so the rest of the gang doesn't realize what a knucklehead you are.  Its OK to message me because I already know  ;D

wsmorrison

Re:Auld Grey Toon ?
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2006, 07:23:56 PM »
Bill,

You liked the movie?  I suspect a lot of it got left on the cutting room floor.  It had the makings of great but I think there were some compromises along the way.  Did you like the way the greens were painted?  Otherwise they'd have looked a sickly brown.

Andy Scanlon

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Re:Auld Grey Toon ?
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2006, 08:17:01 PM »
Bill,

You liked the movie?  I suspect a lot of it got left on the cutting room floor.  It had the makings of great but I think there were some compromises along the way.  Did you like the way the greens were painted?  Otherwise they'd have looked a sickly brown.

Wayne:

At the risk of sounding like a knucklehead myself, is that the movie filmed at RGGC?
« Last Edit: January 04, 2006, 08:42:35 PM by Andy Scanlon »
All architects will be a lot more comfortable when the powers that be in golf finally solve the ball problem. If the distance to be gotten with the ball continues to increase, it will be necessary to go to 7,500 and even 8000 yard courses.  
- William Flynn, golf architect, 1927

Bill_McBride

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Re:Auld Grey Toon ?
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2006, 08:43:09 PM »
Never saw it in a theater, and you couldn't tell the greens were painted by watching it on TV.  Didn't overseed that winter, eh?

I thought the movie was pretty good although the dad was a bit over the top.  Gary Sinise living in the trailer guzzling beer and being the golf guru, hitting balls in the ocean, was great.  The club members were mostly assholes, perfect!
« Last Edit: January 04, 2006, 08:43:29 PM by Bill_McBride »

wsmorrison

Re:Auld Grey Toon ?
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2006, 09:16:13 PM »
Andy,

Yes.  A Gentleman's Game was shot at RGGC based on the book and screenplay (I believe) of Tom Coyne.  It was shot what, four or five years ago?  Mike Malone was the only extra that didn't need wardrobe.  His close are all from the early 1970s down to the doubleknit pants, white belt and big collars  ;D

Bill,

The father was a bit off.  The drunk member was a very good actor.  As for the club  members being portrayed as a--holes, well I'll let others be the judge of the fictional nature.  I thought Sinise was very good.  That was a poor representation of the US Am trophy at the end.  The kid was good...I think he played Dennis the Menace in a remake not too long ago.

Bill_McBride

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Re:Auld Grey Toon ?
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2006, 09:29:01 PM »
Wayne: no reference to any specific club intended!   ;)

mike_malone

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Re:Auld Grey Toon ?
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2006, 08:55:10 AM »
 You do have to be very observant to see me. I am standing near the clubhouse speaking to a woman when the sleazy Italian lawyer (isn't that redundant? ) walks on screen . This is toward the end of the movie.I was in character, acting offended at his loud entrance. To avoid appearing stiff I took some things out of my golf bag and showed them to her. I believe one was a ballmarker from Royal Portrush.

       All the Gary Sinese scenes were done in L.A. Maybe Tommy can recognize where.


    Tom Coyne , who wrote the book and screenplay , is the son of my sponsor at Rolling Green. His father, Jim, gets a few lines just after my cameo. He is the whitehaired guy who introduces himself as a lawyer. I thought it was a great little scene where he is with some prestigious firm and the sleazy guy wants to avoid the discussion.

      Tom Coyne was a junior champ at RG. He is a regular guy as are the great majority of the real members of RG . Fox Chase CC  was protrayed quite differently.  I'd say it was more of a club with some social status in the town. So, the father , an accountant, was constantly concerned about image. I don't think we have tuxes at our member-guest.


    Interestingly, all the interior scenes are at The Racquet Club in Philly.
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Andy Scanlon

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Re:Auld Grey Toon ?
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2006, 09:47:24 AM »
I didn't know we had a movie star in our midsts.  Now that I know Mayday stars in this movie, I will definitely tape it when it comes on the Golf Channel.  Mike, can I get you to autograph a still from the movie?
All architects will be a lot more comfortable when the powers that be in golf finally solve the ball problem. If the distance to be gotten with the ball continues to increase, it will be necessary to go to 7,500 and even 8000 yard courses.  
- William Flynn, golf architect, 1927

mike_malone

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Re:Auld Grey Toon ?
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2006, 09:50:16 AM »
 Andy,
    While my performance was well done I unfortunately had too much left on the editing floor to qualify for Oscar nomination. I will be glad to autograph your photo if you promise not to put it on Ebay ;D
AKA Mayday

mike_malone

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Re:Auld Grey Toon ?
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2006, 10:02:42 AM »
 According to the Golf Channel's website  "A Gentleman's Game" is scheduled for Wednesday 1/18 at 4:30  P.M. East time and again at 9 and Tues. 1/31 at 8 A.M.
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Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Auld Grey Toon ? Morphed into OT discussion of "A Gentleman's Game"
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2006, 10:34:06 AM »
It's hard to tell where its filmed in LA. More then likely, I'm going to guess somewhere near Pt. Magu near Oxnard or maybe Ventura on a mild day with little to no waves.

The movie is addicting (as most bad movies are)

Don't get me wrong, this isn't so much a bad movie but one where you can tell a lot of the storyline is left on the cutting room floor. I do believe that the majority of the membership at Rolling Green is just like Fox Chase. In fact, I'm making it one of the goals in my life to actually prove it. Yes, I am probably a loser in life for doing so, but it won't matter when I can prove to the world that Mike "Mayday" Malone is in fact one of the main characters in the movie--not just in the movie as a bit player that has earned a SAG card for his two second portrayal of just another member. However when you get to act besides Phillip Baker Hall, you earn your right to brag. So go ahead Mayday, brag. Even more impressive is that he could be allowed on the same set as Ellen Muth who does quite a little skinny dipping number in the club president's pool. (Insert Bob Hope cat call here) The same pool that the club president took pictures and molested one of the young caddies in and then later had his Rolls-Royce shot up by the boy's somewhat irate father.

That Fox Chase is one wild club though. One wild and crazy club. And I don't doubt for one second that RGGC is in fact, Fox Chase.

wsmorrison

Re:Auld Grey Toon ? Morphed into OT discussion of "A Gentleman's Game"
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2006, 10:53:14 AM »
By the way, Mike.  Its a darn good thing this thread morphed from its origin.  That was one knuckleheaded thread.  I think you're due for a visit to the diner tomorrow night for a beating.  Its been long overdue ;)

I hope people don't get their hopes up too much.  After all, the movie never made it to theaters; straight to DVD.  The cinematography is rather good as is some of the acting.  I never got past one screening to become addicted as Tommy has.  Maybe I'll put it on later today.

The scenes at Rolling Green look very good (green paint and all).  But the club in the book was meant to be more of an elite club, which RGGC was at one time--Delaware County Blue Blood Quakers.  With some exceptions, it is a far cry from that.  I welcome diversity but in the case of RGGC, a price was paid for membership practices in difficult times during the 1970s and 1980s.  This has led to some issues that detract from the maginificent golf course.

Tommy, I'll be interested to hearing your thoughts after a first-hand account, although if I join you there later this year it will be as a guest, just like you.

Was Ellen Muth really nekked?  I don't remember that scene.  I'll have to get the progressive scan DVD going and ff to that scene.  She was attractive as I recall.

Speaking of movie credits, I was in a movie filmed on Penn's campus in 1975 or 1976, I think and released in 1977.  It was called Nasty Habits with:  Glenda Jackson, Melina Mercouri, Geraldine Page, Sandy Dennis, Anne Meara, Jerry Stiller, Eli Wallach and Rip Torn.  It was influenced by Watergate and the Impeachment of Nixon taking place in a nunnery in Philadelphia.  They filmed me walking down a lane through campus for about 10-15 seconds.  I had a beard and wore an orange jacket if anybody can find the movie out there.

Larry Fine and Heddy LaMarr were relations.  I guess that's where I got my acting skills and looks (from Heddy not Larry)  ;)
« Last Edit: January 05, 2006, 10:59:37 AM by Wayne Morrison »

Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Auld Grey Toon ? Morphed into OT discussion of "A Gentleman's Game"
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2006, 11:01:56 AM »
Wayne,
It was just a rear butt shot and then some nekked skinny dipping in the pool. The damn ripples blocked out the good stuff when she was trying to coerce Timmy into the water with her.  I'm sure Arnold Palmer's Golf Channel will edit that stuff out of the movie, after all he's such a good man, Deacon's son. (We don't have to go into all of the details about The King's dalliances)


redanman

Re:Auld Grey Toon ? Morphed into OT discussion of "A Gentleman's Game"
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2006, 12:07:03 PM »
Fox Chase - great name for a golf club or cancer center.......

Who came up with that one?

p.s. I still need to seee the movie.  No TiVo, so VCR is ready.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2006, 12:07:38 PM by redanmanŽ aka BillV »

ForkaB

Re:Auld Grey Toon ? Morphed into OT discussion of "A Gentleman's Game"
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2006, 12:25:47 PM »
Wayne,
It was just a rear butt shot and then some nekked skinny dipping in the pool. The damn ripples blocked out the good stuff when she was trying to coerce Timmy into the water with her.  I'm sure Arnold Palmer's Golf Channel will edit that stuff out of the movie, after all he's such a good man, Deacon's son. (We don't have to go into all of the details about The King's dalliances)



Tommy

When you are talking about The King, there is no such thing as a "dalliance."  It is all part and parcel of "le droit de seigneur."  Surely, they must have taught you that in Emperor School...... :o
« Last Edit: January 05, 2006, 12:27:16 PM by Rich Goodale »

Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Auld Grey Toon ? Morphed into OT discussion of "A Gentleman's Game"
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2006, 05:20:30 PM »
Rich,
Yes, of course. That was probably a day I cut class....

mike_malone

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Re:Auld Grey Toon ? Morphed into OT discussion of "A Gentleman's Game"
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2006, 07:51:13 PM »
 Tommy,
     I must confess that the black caddie is based on my life; you got me there.
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mike_malone

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Re:Auld Grey Toon ? Morphed into OT discussion of "A Gentleman's Game"
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2006, 08:10:11 PM »
 I really hated the molestation angle; it was awkwardly done and unnecessary. It happened to a secondary character so the focus on Timmy's becoming a gentleman gets lost at the end.

    The scene of Timmy and his dad on the 15th hole when Timmy calls the opposing dad for cheating and his own dad does not back him up is real ; it is heartbreaking ; it is character forming. This is the kind of stuff they should have built on---how the game of golf can really teach values.
AKA Mayday