News:

Welcome to the Golf Club Atlas Discussion Group!

Each user is approved by the Golf Club Atlas editorial staff. For any new inquiries, please contact us.


Jeff_Brauer

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:A legitimate question
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2005, 01:05:52 AM »
Jeff,

Stars vs. Leafs??!?

Come on....  There are two things in hockey I cheer for:  "Les Glorieux"; and whoever is playing against the Leafs...  :D

Sorry, my bad. You'll be happy, though, Stars 2- Leafs 1.

Finally, something we can agree about.....(or is that aboot?) ;D
Jeff Brauer, ASGCA Director of Outreach

Anthony_Nysse

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:A legitimate question
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2005, 06:20:25 AM »
Wheather a golf course is good or not is strickly opinion-just like the discussions about this website. It's all opinion, but yet we tend to start a bang wagon on those who don't agree with "our favorite" architects-I wonder how many lurkers want to post, have good things to say, but yet are a bit timid because of the "treehouses'" opinions....I know I would be!  :)

Tony Nysse
Asst. Supt.
Long Cove Club
HHI, SC
« Last Edit: December 11, 2005, 08:45:08 AM by Anthony_Nysse »
Anthony J. Nysse
Director of Golf Courses & Grounds
Apogee Club
Hobe Sound, FL

Mike_Young

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:A legitimate question
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2005, 07:50:02 AM »
Of course this site has it's favorites just like any other thing in the world.  But IMHO what sometimes gets out of whack on this site is the ability to distinguish idealism from realism.  Most every work discussed on this site is what I would place under the idealistic. And I compliment any architect that has reached the idealistic level.  

 And yet there is realistic side of golf architecture (as with any form of architecture)  having to work with clients that have small constrcution budgets, small maintenance budgets.  Yes, I admire and enjoy discussing sites in the middle of Nebraska or on the perfect piece of land or those being developed with an unlimited advertising budget, but those are few.  

There are a lot of good golf courses out there that you will never see discussed here.  for most of us we have to design and build a golf course that will make money based on a much smaller green fee than what is discussed here.  I guess I am saying its alot like cars, there are a lot of good camrys out there but no discussion groups or fan clubs like the Corvettes have.  And there is nothing wrong with either.  So we can all have our favorites whether it be TD or JN or RJ or EP.  Some will garner more discussion than others but the majority of the game is being played on courses by architects that will never be discussed.  So just keep discussing.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2005, 07:53:08 AM by Mike_Young »
"just standing on a corner in Winslow Arizona"

TEPaul

Re:A legitimate question
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2005, 09:14:36 AM »
"Of course this site has it's favorites just like any other thing in the world.  But IMHO what sometimes gets out of whack on this site is the ability to distinguish idealism from realism. "

MikeY:

No kidding. The longer I hang around this site the more apparent that becomes. There's nothing at all wrong with idealism and there's nothing wrong with our ultra purists on this website but it gets more apparent every day that they need a constant dose of realism too. Will they ever get that? Who knows? I only know that they never will until they at least admit it first.   ;)

Mike, on this subject of golf course architecture the way it's pursued on this website, do you think there actually is such a thing one might legitimately call a "realistic idealist'?  ;)

Mike_Young

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:A legitimate question
« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2005, 11:08:02 AM »
"Of course this site has it's favorites just like any other thing in the world.  But IMHO what sometimes gets out of whack on this site is the ability to distinguish idealism from realism. "

MikeY:



Mike, on this subject of golf course architecture the way it's pursued on this website, do you think there actually is such a thing one might legitimately call a "realistic idealist'?  ;)

TE,
Gee, I guess so.... I don't know.  I think of myself as an "idealistic realist".   It just seems to me that so much of the idealistic architecture values that we strive for today took years to evolve and shape in reality.  Yet today an owner or developer would wish to have those evolved features on opening day.  And that is idealism with $$$$ signs.  
 Seems to me that in Reality  sooner or later golf has to support itself whether it be a private exclusive club or a public course.  


"just standing on a corner in Winslow Arizona"