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A_Clay_Man

Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« on: October 07, 2005, 06:16:28 PM »
Par 3 thrid with the Par 4 sixth in backround


The 6th from the 10th


Jake and Al on 1st hole

From above the 18th green


greenside bunker on 16


Mowing the 3rd green


A 90' drop shot to the one shot 7th
« Last Edit: October 07, 2005, 06:18:36 PM by Adam Clayman »

Evan_Green

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Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2005, 07:29:47 PM »
Wow - it looks great.

When does it officially open?

Mike_Sweeney

Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2005, 08:09:10 PM »
Adam.

Based on your visits, Stone Eagle vs Ballyneal, how would you split 10 rounds between the two?

Bill Shotzbarger

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Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2005, 08:18:36 PM »
The shot of the guy mowing with the course, sprinklers and mountains in the background is awwwesome.

A_Clay_Man

Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2005, 11:16:14 AM »
Mike- My visits did not include golfing the courses, so, I can't reasonably answer your question. Hopefully someday I will be able to.

The course is scheduled to be opened in Nov.

Up until about two years ago, I had never golfed a Doak course. Now, it appears that I am a founding member of his butt-boy club. I assure I am not. I do appreciate thoughtful design and clearly, the styles of mainstream designers make me sick, now that I have seen what "real" golf should be.

Jfaspen

Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2005, 11:19:44 AM »
I love the look the photos present..

From afar, good job Tom :)

Jeff

A_Clay_Man

Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2005, 06:19:07 PM »
Let's test the picture theory.

What can we tell from pictures?



The most obvious one, to me, is the recoverability aspect.

Steve_ Shaffer

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Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2005, 11:51:31 PM »
I am still waiting for my invite to play Stone Eagle from Bill Gates. ;D
"Some of us worship in churches, some in synagogues, some on golf courses ... "  Adlai Stevenson
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A_Clay_Man

Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2005, 09:03:05 AM »
Here are some of the finishing holes.

The 16th



17th



And, the home hole.



In an attempt to give some scale, that's a full grown man on the home hole's green



Here's one of the 6th. Note; Doak's Mackenzie book p. 68 on Lahinch.



And, another one of the 6th.



« Last Edit: October 12, 2005, 09:05:37 AM by Adam Clayman »

Chris Munoz

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Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2005, 05:41:20 PM »
Just a grow-in tip....The only problem I see with one of the pics, is the amigo cutting greens, and the fact that he is not using a mat to make turns on.  The effect, is that the collars and the approaches will get some wear problems occuring.  Oh well....They will learn.....

Muni
Christian C. Munoz
Assistant Superintendent Corales
PUNTACANA Resort & Club
www.puntacana.com

A_Clay_Man

Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2005, 08:10:22 PM »
David, Tying those bunkers in, is amazing. I just came back from a preliminary site visit with none other than that up and coming whiz-kid, boy genius, Mike Nuzzo. The sight had all kinds of slight elevation changes, and, that really through off my ability to gauge the distances.

You all might recall that last picture as the hole Tommy started a thread on awhile back, entitled "Where is this?"

Muni, Could you elaborate on what that mat is? How it's used, and especially the justification? Please.

Don_Mahaffey

Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2005, 11:28:16 PM »
Muni,
FYI, the guy growing in Stone Eagle has successfully grown in a few pretty good golf courses.

Adam,
I really like the look of the 16th, but I'm wondering what the path is across the beginning of the fwy? Any idea?
« Last Edit: October 12, 2005, 11:33:55 PM by Don_Mahaffey »

David Druzisky

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Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2005, 12:10:41 AM »
Yep those are construction access routes.  They are still working on odds-n-ends including some specific areas to be sodded.  Without continuous cart paths and the type of site they have it can be difficult getting around at this point in the effort.  I am sure they will just work their way out as they can.

No continuous paths will always make overseeding a bit more difficult and cart traffic hard to manage for a period of time after.  For those of you in other parts of the country that don't see oversseding much, remember, it is like seeding a golf course and then allowing it to open in 3 weeks.

I was there on Friday.  Outstanding!

Don_Mahaffey

Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2005, 12:16:15 AM »
David M,
Got your IM and responded. Thanks.

David D,
Thanks for the info. As a supt who overseeded your right about the path issue. But, I'll bet a place like Stone Eagle has plans to close down for 4-5 weeks for overseeding. That's enough time to let carts on the turf, especially at a private club doing a small number of rounds.

Will anyone walk the course?

David Druzisky

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Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2005, 12:40:52 AM »
Tom or one of his guys would know best about the question of walking it.  It seems that once you get up to the course from the facilities, you could walk it with only a couple harder climbs.  In Palm Springs things are a little different.

Bill_McBride

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Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2005, 01:49:23 PM »
Where is Stone Eagle?

Looks great!

Adam, how would you compare to Black Mesa?  Looks like similar terrain although no box canyons!

And how would you compare to Apache Stronghold?  Again, the terrain looks similar.

rgkeller

Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2005, 01:55:26 PM »
Very nice.

No Lakota Canyon, of course.

But still, very nice.

A_Clay_Man

Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2005, 02:48:45 PM »
Bill,You ask great questions. I wish I could give you a more concrete opinion. But, I saw SE back in May, before most of the grass was grown-in, and traversing the entire property, in my guides SUV, wasn't comprehensive. I can tell you this, the serenity, combined with the views of the Coachella Valley, are really un-precedented (unless you a Big Horn sheep)

While superficially, BM and SE sites might look somewhat similar, I suspect their only real similarity is the scale. One thing I suspect is the internal contours on the greens, at SE, they were not as sharp as BM's, but (I suspect) rather were more sloped with the natural lay of the land. While there is no box canyon one shotters (I think) there is one teeing ground, the highest point, that utilizes the rock reparian that flows form the higher peaks.

As for a comparison to Apache, The scale of the bunkering at AS is nothing like the ones in these pictures, is it? Just as a matter of progression, I suspect SE is representative of the continued quality teamwork, that Doak and crew have evolved into. Subtle, Grand and truely should be appreciated as art.


mikes1160

Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2005, 04:26:57 PM »
They certainly are using the finest mowing equipment at SE  ;) Very nice, can't wait to see it...

Bill_McBride

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Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2005, 07:19:10 PM »
Cochella Valley is Palm Springs area?

A_Clay_Man

Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2005, 07:40:31 PM »
Yes Bill.

I can say one more thing with some certainty. 3-4 years ago when Mr. Doak came on this website and hinted that a project was in the early workings, in Palm Desert, and that it would rock the Valley, with the likes of which they had never seen, golf coursewise. He delivered. Mit spades!

Chris Munoz

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Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2005, 07:59:59 PM »
For everyones information........I am have been in the turf field for 9 years and have 2 grow-in's the past 2 years...I will not name the courses, because I know how you guys are....The use of mats are used around the green surrounds, collars and approaches. The mat itself is a rubber or could just be a large door mat.  the longer the mat, the more space there is to turn on.  If there is no mat, the mower will cause damage to the thin and still weak turfgrass.  that is why, a mat is used so there is no damage that the mower makes to the turfgrass.  FYI, Paul Latshaw at Murfield Village, uses make sit a point that mats are used to turn on, when someone mow's greens at Murfield Village, and that is a mature golf course...

Email or IM, if u want more info...

Muni
Christian C. Munoz
Assistant Superintendent Corales
PUNTACANA Resort & Club
www.puntacana.com

A_Clay_Man

Re:Stone Eagle Recent Pix
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2005, 10:41:38 PM »
Here are some closer looks at some of the bunkers.

This first, is on #18, during construction




This next, is on the 8th hole, Par 5. It resides at the corner of the dogleg.



Here's the same hole with the above bunker in the lower right of the picture.


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