3 courses at Turning Stone Resort in NY

[PThomas]

anyone played any of them?  

a scary note about the RTJ Jr. course there in GolfWorld:
" Some form of forced carry over dense patches of protected native grasses or wetlands figures in all but a few of Kaluhyat's holes."

[John Foley]

Paul,

I've played Shennendoah & Kaluhyat but not Atonyute.

Of those two, I enjoyed Shenandoah much more than Kaluhyat for  some of the reason. I think that some of the individual holes at Kaluhyat we're very good, but as a whole, Senandoah was much better. Many more options off the tee, greens sites have a better flow and a few of the holes have some central hazards.  Par 4 3rd hole is very strong for a short/drive & pitch hole. The par 3's, we're good but somewhat repetative in distance. #17 is a very good par 3.

At Kaluhyat, RTJ II routed the course in & out of some wooded areas and it just seems forced.

Atonyute has very limited play and they are postitioning it like Cascata & Shadow Creek like the Vegas cascino's.

Here is the Google Maps of the courses.

You can see Shenandoah

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=43.117400,-75.582998&spn=0.011638,0.020964&z=1&t=k&hl=en

Kaluhyat (about 70% complete - rest of the routing to the east)

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=43.105197,-75.579157&spn=0.011058,0.019916&t=k&hl=en

Atonyute in early shaping.

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=43.094951,-75.532916&spn=0.011060,0.019916&t=k&hl=en


I know Bill V did the tour very recently and will have an opinion if he see's this.

[PThomas]

John: just curious, do you know if they are  charging those Vegas -like prices to play Atonyute?

[scott_wood]

all the pricing is on the website...if you stay, and feel "flush", the new, seperate "Lodge" is very very well done ( and very  "modern").... to me Shenandoah is the most enjoyable, most interestingly designed of the three....and the effort (maintenance, pro shop pesonnel) "they" are expending on golf is truly admirable

[John Foley]

Paul - Yes, Vegas like  charges for Atonyute. Have not seen it yet. Hope for some late fall discounts.

Scott - Did you think Kaluhyat's routing was forced? I heard a story there was some land that they wanted for the course that they could not aquire so they had to make do. Not sure I beleive that.

[PThomas]

thanks guys!