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Don Herdrich

Bay Club at Mattapoisett
« on: June 30, 2005, 10:24:10 PM »
Has anyone been out to this new Faxon course near Buzzard's Bay?  The course and club look very interesting via the website.

Brad Tufts

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Re:Bay Club at Mattapoisett
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2005, 09:16:20 AM »
Don,

I played it about 6 weeks ago, and the course was in great shape for early season New England, especially considering the rain and cool weather we had throughout the Spring.

I was especially interested in playing my first Faxon (with Brad Booth) design, as I've heard that he has done his homework in terms of design history and methodology, as well as being exposed to an old Ross course (RICC) most of his life.

The course at the Bay Club is decidedly low-profile, with many of the greens sitting at-grade with wide run-up areas in front.  This feature does give the course an old-world feel, as do the subtle contours in the somewhat large greens themselves.  The playing corridors are tree-lined but wide, as only very wide shots encounter trees.

During my one round at the Bay Club, I began to think the course was slightly less engaging than I had hoped, that the subtlety would be more appreciated through repeat play, but the back nine offers a bit more fun than the front.  Faxon and Booth also incorporate a couple of MacDonald/Raynor aspects to the course, although not nearly as severe as the real thing.  The fourth is a redan par three, where the green is angled to the tee from front right to back left, but the slope will not kick shots to back left hole locations, and the green surrounds consist more of chipping fairway than deep bunker.  The sixteenth green is a distinct double plateau green, with three separate pinnable levels with swales dividing the sections.  This is a very fun green with more slope than will be seen anywhere else on the course.  

Faxon/Booth also incorporates a bit of Ross on the par three 12th, the shortest hole on the course.  The shot is about 145 yards to a small plateau green with several bunkers eating into the fillpad at the front.  This hole is much like one at Ross' Triggs Memorial in Providence, and would be at home at many other Ross designs around the country.

The most original hole is the par five 11th, a shortish, double-dogleg par five where distance can be gained by carrying a hazard of wet ground off the tee.  The second is laid up to the left of the sightly raised green, or blasted over trees directly at the pin.  Another fun hole, and one where the plateau green is used without sand hazards.

The Bay Club is a beautifully conditioned, historically-inspired design that will further the design portfolio of Brad Faxon.  Much is made of whether a course is a good tournament venue or "member's course," and Faxon's career as a tour player shines through at the Bay Club.  The layout is very fair, containing few bells and whistles, and is thus devoid of the the quirky features that make New England's older venues so fun to play.  Thus, the Bay Club may be a very good potential tournament course for the NEPGA or Cleveland (local mini-) tour, but it does not contain the shot options that promote indefinite entertaining play.  I would recommend it, but its not in the top tier of nouveau NE designs.

-Brad
So I jump ship in Hong Kong....

John Foley

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Re:Bay Club at Mattapoisett
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2005, 06:41:41 AM »
Don,

I will be out there next week (w/ camera) and I'll post some more photo's. My bro-in-law is a new memeber and speaks highly of the place. He lurks here so I'll ping him so he can chime in.
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Dan_Callahan

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Re:Bay Club at Mattapoisett
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2005, 08:55:21 AM »
During the CVS Charity Classic at RICC, the Golf Channel did a Playing Lessons From the Pros at the Bay Club. On TV, the course looked nice but not memorable. The feature that stayed with me is the unhidden nature of the white (crushed shells?) cart paths. As is true at RICC, the cart path seems to cut in front of the tee boxes and diagonally across the fairways on many holes. Perhaps Faxon thinks that look gves it a traditional Newport/Nantucket feel, but I would prefer to keep the cart paths out of the line of sight if possible. The course seemed tame compared to its neighbor down the coast, Shelter Harbor, and its wild Jeff Bradley bunkers.

John Foley

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Re:Bay Club at Mattapoisett
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2005, 09:21:07 PM »
Bumping this up to add some pics.

The Bay Club has a great feel. It doesn't overwhelm you, it's not "In Your Face". The challenges are more subtle, the green contours & surrounds are challenging, but not disasters waiting to happen. Recovery options abound. The holes fit the land very, very well. The course is loaded w/ width, but there are better options to take on every hole which generates tremendous options. It's an excellent course and I've enjoyed trmendously my few rounds there. As a mid-teen index, it's a joy to play.

Approach to hole #2, 443 yard par 4 slight dogleg left. Plenty of room right off the tee, but left side opens up the green.



Block the approach to the right your left w/ a tough pitch from a tight lie over the trap.



Hole 7 359 yard par 4. Short par 4. 3W/Iron off the tee needs to avoid water on left and bunkers right. Green has a great false front. Miss long w/ a pin in front & it's a tough shot.



Hole 8 421 yard par 4. Need to hit a good drive to have mid-iron or less in. All the fun is in this large green bisected by ridge which drops down to a lower back shelf.



Green view from back right hand side.



Hole 12 169 yard par 3. Love the old style pedastle green.



Hole 14 233 yard par 3. Green has two distinct levels. Back pins are tough recovery shots.



Hole 16 410 yard dogleg left par 4. You need to hug the left hand side and challenge the bunker to get a shorter shot into the green. Push it right  leaves a much longer approach. Long & straight is wet.



Best green on the course. Double plateau. They say the fron pin is the toughest. Back ain't no pushover.



Hole 17 487 par 4 . Incredibly tough. Again challenge the left hand side to get best/shorter approach. Green is open in the front & right hnds side is closly mown chipping area. Very strong par 4.



Hole 18 Par 4 445 yards. Again bunkers are subtle. Approach to the green is open, but depengiong upon the pin location you'll want to favor either side of the fairway.



Nice chipping area long & too the right of the green.



Didn't get any pics of the 11th. 528 par 5. It's a serpentine hole where a good drive down the left can open a home in two approach. Raised green w/ no bunkers.

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