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The Doak Scale
Tom_Doak:
There were a dozen "10's" when the book was published [all the courses mentioned, plus Royal Melbourne West], and as I recall there were about the same number of "0's".
When the book was published, GOLFWEEK's review focused on the courses with the zero rating, trying to stir up some controversy. [Hard to believe it, but at one time not every golf magazine was full of Doak b-boys.] I thought that was unfair, particularly as those courses are sprinkled throughout the book and I made no attempt to draw particular attention to them. I would appreciate it if no one repeated that exercise.
Incidentally, two or three of the "0" rated courses have since been significantly re-done. The one which has been well covered here was Stone Harbor in NJ. GOLFWEEK's book reviewer played the course and insisted it should be a "5" or "6", which I got a good laugh over.
I've still got a few copies of that brown-cover edition which you can have for $100 instead of $350, if you really want to own it.
Tom_Doak:
Sean:
There are some slight editing, two years' more worth of courses seen, and a lot of nice photos in the color, Cruden Bay edition. Otherwise it's not much different.
Mike_Cirba:
ShoreGate Golf Course in southern NJ by Ron Fream and David Dale is a solid Doak "0".
A round there may jaundice your view of architecture permanently.
Of course, it did make Golf Magazine's "Top 10 You Can Play" listing the year it opened. Nice job, Brian. ::)
John Kirk:
Pacific Dunes is a 10.
Palo Alto Municipal (William F. Bell, 1957, plus others) is a 4, the best of the unusual San Francisco Baylands courses.
AndrewB:
--- Quote from: John Kirk on August 28, 2005, 01:55:16 AM ---Palo Alto Municipal (William F. Bell, 1957, plus others) is a 4, the best of the unusual San Francisco Baylands courses.
--- End quote ---
I played the first 13 holes yesterday (it got dark) for the first time. From what I saw, I would say 4 is a stretch. This certainly didn't seem like an above-average course to me at all (3 is average on the Doak scale).
What are the other SF Baylands courses you are referring to?
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