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This is the hole from Hell!
« on: July 25, 2005, 05:33:59 PM »
Admit it, you've made a few mistakes. You violated a few of the 10  commandments and a few rules of golf. You've been told that you can't join the Golf Club in Heaven. The good news is that you can still play golf in Hell! The bad news is that there is only one hole there to play over and over. Which hole would you nominate to play that would meet the Devil's GCA standard for torture?

I'll submit Bethpage Black #15 to the Devil's Club Committee.

Kenny Lee Puckett

Re:This is the hole from Hell!
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2005, 05:56:02 PM »
17 at TPC...

Never to hit a driver again...

The cost of golf balls...

JWK

Mike Hendren

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Re:This is the hole from Hell!
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2005, 06:01:04 PM »
The 18th at Cypress Point Club - knowing that you can't play the other 17.   That, plus knowing that the silhouette of a certain GCA benefactor would not be waiting behind the green to treat you to a nearby cheeseburger, rare. :'(

More than a pity.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2005, 06:02:14 PM by Bogey_Hendren »
Two Corinthians walk into a bar ....

A_Clay_Man

Re:This is the hole from Hell!
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2005, 06:12:45 PM »
The 18th hole at the village links of glen ellen.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2005, 06:14:04 PM by Adam Clayman »

Paul Richards

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Re:This is the hole from Hell!
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2005, 09:19:07 PM »
Shivas


You had to mention 'Seven Bridges' ....

 ::) :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


I am leaving the room to get REALLY sick.............

 :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
"Something has to change, otherwise the never-ending arms race that benefits only a few manufacturers will continue to lead to longer courses, narrower fairways, smaller greens, more rough, more expensive rounds, and other mechanisms that will leave golf's future in doubt." -  TFOG

Paul Richards

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Re:This is the hole from Hell!
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2005, 09:19:47 PM »
Actually, 'Seven Bridges' and Golf Course Architecture
shall NEVER meet......


 :-[ :P ::) :-X :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
"Something has to change, otherwise the never-ending arms race that benefits only a few manufacturers will continue to lead to longer courses, narrower fairways, smaller greens, more rough, more expensive rounds, and other mechanisms that will leave golf's future in doubt." -  TFOG

Jason Topp

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Re:This is the hole from Hell!
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2005, 10:36:40 AM »
2nd at Gullane.  Straight uphill.  Not bad once in a round but over and over again it would stink.

Rick Shefchik

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Re:This is the hole from Hell!
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2005, 03:09:35 PM »
#18 at TOC.


 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)




I originally intended this as some typical GCA comic relief, but as I think about it, I'm not sure it would be all that far down on my list -- especially if, as I suspect after going to Hell, I'd be back to fighting a slice, as I did for my first 20 years playing the game.

Besides, in Hell I doubt that the clubhouse would be there; nor would the usual spectators be standing near the green to cheer a decent shot. There'd probably be one foul-mouthed drunk to heckle you whenever you failed to make a par.

To keep myself interested for eternity, I might have to petition the Devil to allow me to put in a bunker at about 290.

Do you think he'd let me? ;D
"Golf is 20 percent mechanics and technique. The other 80 percent is philosophy, humor, tragedy, romance, melodrama, companionship, camaraderie, cussedness and conversation." - Grantland Rice

Geoffrey_Walsh

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Re:This is the hole from Hell!
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2005, 03:24:41 PM »
#7 at GC @ Glen Mills was the first hole that came to mind...

223 yds, uphill, 5-tiered green with bunkers and woods (basically OB) on the right hand side down a severe slope.

On a hunch (I'm not making this up), I looked up the name of the hole...  "HELL"
« Last Edit: July 26, 2005, 03:25:37 PM by Geoffrey_Walsh »

Brad Tufts

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Re:This is the hole from Hell!
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2005, 03:43:00 PM »
#15, Macgregor Links (Emmet), Saratoga Springs New York

A par five of about 540, with a wide fairway that narrows down to 20 yds wide about 250 from the tee.  This in itself is not a huge problem, but the entire hole is bordered by a 20-ft deep ditch on the right, with an 8-ft wide bunker to save sliding shots from the ravine.  The bunker and ravine are marked a red-staked hazard area, but the opposite side of the ravine is OB.  Due to dense bushes and woods, it is near impossible from the tee to determine if a wayward tee shot has gone OB, or just in the hazard.  During college tournaments (home course of Skidmore), there would inevitably be three groups waiting on the tee.  This hole is also complemented by a tiny, rock-hard green.  I would guess the average score for the field on this hole during Skidmore's tournament to be about 6.25.
So I jump ship in Hong Kong....

peter_p

Re:This is the hole from Hell!
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2005, 04:46:20 PM »
#10 at SilverTip near Banff. Three drop shot holes on the trip are memorable. Devil's Cauldron at Banff and Cleopatra at Jasper for good thoughts. This one was dreck. What was Der Furber thinking?
« Last Edit: July 26, 2005, 04:53:06 PM by Peter Pittock »

Sean Leary

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Re:This is the hole from Hell!
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2005, 05:30:30 PM »
Peter,

I'm trying to remember that hole at Silvertip.  Is that the ridiculously downhill dogleg right par 4 with a totally blind tee shot where they have a spotter telling if your tee ball ended up OK? I think that was #10......

peter_p

Re:This is the hole from Hell!
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2005, 05:55:03 PM »
Sean,
It is the drop shot short of the condos, then a 90 degree right to a green which is partially hidden below and behind a ridge. The following is an earlier thread by Robert Thompson'
"Silvertip is remarkable -- and that isn't a compliment. There are actually holes where it takes almost five minutes to drive from green to the next tee.
Furber is average at his best -- Predator Ridge has some neat bits, but at Silvertip, you get the sense that every hole is downhill, so the routing always forces a drive uphill to the next tee.
The 10th, until it was overhauled recently, was among the worst golf holes I've ever played.
Imagine a blind par four, dogleg right, with a 100 foot drop of 340 yards. The problem is that you can't see the group ahead of you on the tee, so you are forced to have staff with walkie-talkies on the fairway and on the tee. Players hit a six iron and then a wedge. Recently it was changed to bring the tee down to the bottom of the hill. It is a better hole.
However, the original left me wondering what kind of golf architect would ever conceive of such a hole. Furber worked with Trent Jones, but it often doesn't look like he took much away. Some place him in the big four -- with Carrick, McBroom, Cooke. I don't understand it. Furber gets lots of work and a talented person like Rod Whitman doesn't get any.

Robert"
« Last Edit: July 26, 2005, 07:32:08 PM by Peter Pittock »

Jim Nugent

Re:This is the hole from Hell!
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2005, 08:12:16 PM »
Two candidates.  Can't remember the name of either course, but  remember well the holes that "stood out" so much...

1. A good public course in the Dallas area, that was ranked in the top 20 or so public courses back in 1983 when I played it.  The complex had two courses.

You drive over a hill on this hole, and can't see the landing area.  When you get there, you find there is a pond over the crest.  I should have hit 2 iron, or no more than a 4 wood.  Instead hit driver and got wet.    

At the time there was no map on the scorecard or the tee to warn the unknowing.    

2.  A short muni in St. Paul MN.  The hole in question was a 210 or so yard par three, with a large tree about 70 yards out that blocked the right side.  The only time I played there, they put the tee markers on the right side of the tee.  There was no way to aim straight for the green: you had to play a big slice.  This is the only dogleg par 3 I have played (or seen) in my life.  

Tim Bert

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Re:This is the hole from Hell!
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2005, 08:57:44 PM »
I nominate hole #4 at Gillette Ridge in Connecticut.  The hole is a mid-length par 3.  The green is at least 40 yards long, and I thnk it is probably 8 or 9 yards wide at its widest point.  The narrower sections are 6 paces wide.  While the pin can play short, middle, or long, I don't see how you could have a right pin or a left pin position.  Anything left or right of middle would almost be too few paces from the edge.  

There are long bunkers on either side of the green, ensuring that you can't come out of them near the pin unless you are an expert bunker player.  After playing the hole twice, I think the play for a 14 handicapper like myself might be to lay up just short of the green and chip on.  One of my partners hit a great looking shot that was pin high about 10 feet left of the center pin position, and he was in the bunker.

Arnold Palmer must have been in a foul mood when he designed this green.  Not my idea of fun.  I could probably pull enough holes together from this course to produce my nine from Hell.

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