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NAF

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« on: July 26, 2005, 12:18:38 PM »
You never had to pay the entry fee to this club.
Club is historic by one of the top 5 all time designers. A Doak 5-6
Full Member Fees are $15,500 a year
With Assessments etc, fees are $21,000
New $20MM clubhouse on its way next year that looks like Winged Foot
It is 18 miles from Manhattan..
You play 20 rounds a year there tops..
The food is very good..

Would you let this membership lapse?

In 6 years you must pay $50k to join..
« Last Edit: July 26, 2005, 12:24:32 PM by NAF »

Kenny Lee Puckett

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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2005, 12:22:46 PM »
Keep it!

Paul_Turner

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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2005, 12:29:44 PM »
Dump it Noel.
can't get to heaven with a three chord song

Tyler Kearns

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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2005, 01:09:31 PM »
At a little more than $1,000 per round, I would dump it (note: I'm not wealthy). The savings alone could comfortably finance a couple of overseas journeys per year would be a far more enriching experience in my opinion.

TK
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Mike_Sweeney

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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2005, 02:58:22 PM »
It is 18 miles from Manhattan..

Noel,

I hate to break this news to you, but you have indeed moved to Connecticut! Thus while I appreciate you posting mileage for me, your commute is more like 40 miles. :)

Mike_Cirba

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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2005, 03:02:45 PM »
Noel,

Are there social and/or professional aspects to the club that might be difficult to duplicate elsewhere?


NAF

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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2005, 03:15:27 PM »
no, but it is a nice place to practice and I am the club historian although no one seems to care! :'( :'(

DTaylor18

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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2005, 03:18:55 PM »
Noel, i think you've already answered your own question!  ;D

Rick Shefchik

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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2005, 03:43:04 PM »
I am the club historian although no one seems to care! :'( :'(

Well, that tears it. Any club that doesn't care about its historian isn't worthy of one.
"Golf is 20 percent mechanics and technique. The other 80 percent is philosophy, humor, tragedy, romance, melodrama, companionship, camaraderie, cussedness and conversation." - Grantland Rice

Scott_Burroughs

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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2005, 03:45:29 PM »
Noel,

Your savings in dues/fees alone for a couple of years might get you in a decent place near home.

mike_malone

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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2005, 03:48:03 PM »
 How many trips to Deal is that?
AKA Mayday

NAF

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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2005, 03:52:35 PM »
would be a lot of trips to Deal.. I can become lifetime at Deal for $7500..


mike_malone

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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2005, 03:54:26 PM »
 Dah!
AKA Mayday

Chris_Clouser

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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2005, 04:32:54 PM »
Noel,

Take the money and put it in a college fund for the new one!  The savings of that amount alone per year should get her in any school in the country, even at the rate that education costs are going up.  The things you have to suddenly think about with a new one!

Or better yet you could send it my way and it would cover the next ten years of dues at my local club.

Chris

Kenny Lee Puckett

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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2005, 05:41:00 PM »
One thing that most posters here forget about is access.  

From a Dollars and Cents perspective, NAF will never get his greens fees amortized to $100 a round.  Thus, the $21,000 he would spend on his NJ club could conceivably cover 4 Great golf trips:  Bandon/Sand Hills/England and a winter trip to a sunny resort while the permafrost makes golf in the NYC Metro Area a snowplower's delight.  Now try to get that much vacation time.  Also, weekends are just not the same without golf.

That said, consider the other options.  Public Golf in CT is scarce & quality poor (Richter Park nonwithstanding), and a downer when compared to the prior life that NAF has enjoyed.

He could resign his architectuarlly significant club and attempt to join one a less significant design in SW CT where the average entry fee is $100K plus an 8-9 year wait for full golfing privileges (Assuming that he is willing to find a sponsor and six other co-conspiratory letter writers - a 3 year process unto itself).

What NAF really wants is to be able to tee it up on Sat. & Sun. with his boys, as well as being able to get out during the long summer evenings.

It goes back to what Sam Kinneson said about the Eithopians:  "Move to where the food is!"  That said, convincing the wife and the newly arrived inheritor to move closer to your club at this point is the challenge.  Bribery works.  Begging won't.

If you give up upon your club, you will probably regret it.  Besides, could you live on just trips to Deal?

JWK


Jonathan Cummings

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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2005, 05:48:09 PM »
I'd keep just because they hold nice GCA events!  :)

Chris Kane

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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2005, 07:45:16 PM »
Noel, dump it.  Move to Melbourne, and we'll get you into a sandbelt club - your $21,000 translates to roughly $28,000 Australian, which will cover the entrance fee plus your first six or seven years.


Don Herdrich

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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2005, 10:33:26 PM »
$15.5 per year dues..........OUCH.........anyway you can get into Yale??  New Haven isn't bad either at $18K initiation, $6K dues.  As said before Fairfield County is a BIG no go unless you have major time and major money.  I do know someone who did get into the major club in Norwalk and it didn't take that long....I'm not sure of the $$$ involved there though...

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