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distance markers, what's best?

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Joe Hancock:
I'm not of the "NO YARDAGE MARKERS!" crowd, but I definitely don't like anything poking up out of the ground...trees, barber poles, colored stakes, venetian blinds.....to indicate yardage.

Joe

George_Bahto:
on a number of the "upscale" courses: I vote for "none" or just yardage book with fairway bunker yardages marked

on the rest, 3 plates: 100 - 150 - 200

...... so do we really need a "231" sprinkler head on courses .....   and who can use half-wedge-79 yardages or 57 yards from the green?

Jim Thompson:
On a public track, I prefer the 150yd barber pole with a kirby type plate center fairway at 100, 200 and 250.  The 150 pole gives first timers something to hit at and, in my opinion, as my grand dad always said - aim small miss small. If you add a good yardage book -all is well.

Reluctantly, we added lasered yardages on sprinkler heads and provide a tourny style pin sheet daily.

In my perfect world, a course would give its members at the time of their first round a yardage book full of blank "routing drawings" - no center lines, which a player would then fill out on their own, with no marking on the course anywhere.  I doubt that will ever happen though.  You also need to preface my opinion with the fact that I don't think traps should have rakes nor should they be maintained more than once a month.

Cheers!

JT

Afterthought-  I recall actually doing a search on yardage markers as the fist time I found GCA.  One of the old threads is actually how we made our decision on how to go.  GCA does have an impact in the real world.  Thought you'd like to know.

Nate Golomb:
As a college player, I have practiced and learned to become more precise with my yardages (of course it doesn't always go as planned) but I don't necessarily need to see all the sprinklers marked, just a 100, 150, 200, and 250 on par 5's is fine...but many of us have just grown so accustomed to it that we expect it (how foolish we are)...what did they do 100 years ago? The lost art of the yardage book in this age of lasered yardages and GPS **SIGH**

I cannot count how many times I've paced off a yardage and then look at the hole and think "that does not look that far or it looks farther than the number" Then feel takes over and sometimes it works out and sometimes not, finding that balance is key...But the point is, feel is JUST as important as the yardage because if you're standing at 125 yards with a wedge in your hands and it just feels like you should be standing up a 6 iron and running it on, you're probably not going to hit a very good shot with that wedge...

Jim ~ I also think that the average weekend golfer playing a public track like ours with lasered sprinklers and daily hole location sheets is FAR too concerned with finding himself/herself the exact yardage. Yet another explanation for slow play across the country because these players think they're better than they actually are, finding it necessary to know that they're 138 yrds. to the pin instead of approximating 140...More than 50% of the time they're going to end up short anyway because they don't hit the perfect shot like they expect to...Just something else to think about I guess...

~The New Guy (Nate)

James Bennett:
my club still has 150 metre candle pines (not long for this world) and distances on sprinkler heads.  We thought about posts in the rough at 100m, 150m and 200m.  Then we thought about those pop-up markers in the middle of the fairway.  Then we saw those pop-up markers.  Then we decided to listen to advice given previously.

The Advice.  If you must have distance markers, make them as unobtrusive as possible.  That probably means distances on the sprinkler heads.

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