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Jason Hines

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Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« on: February 15, 2005, 08:45:18 PM »
Hello Everyone,

We have made mention a couple of times about putting an outing, together this spring at Sutton Bay involving design discussion, play, architecture with Mark Amundson’s help/blessing.  

The reason I bring this up now is that my schedule is filling up for April and May and I want to offer with help on travel or organization if I can.  Anyone?  Or has this idea died, let me know.

Jason Hines

cary lichtenstein

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2005, 09:20:10 PM »
I'm going out there  early Sept.
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ed_getka

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2005, 09:51:44 PM »
Jason,
  I would have loved to gone out to see Sutton Bay, but I'm already booked for KPIV and Bandon Trails opening. It is nice of Mark to have offered and I look forward to taking him up on it in the future.
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Michael Whitaker

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2005, 11:15:50 PM »
Jason - Daryl Boe (Turbo) was going to work on this. We should hear something from him soon.
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RJ_Daley

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2005, 11:36:59 PM »
Jason, I want to go out to KPIV, but have to wait a little longer to see if I can.  But, I also want to participate and help organize if possible for a group to experience Sutton Bay.  I am also on the verge of having April and May filled up with things that I am personally having a hard time prioritizing.  I'd like to have my cake and eat it - and eat it - and eat it - over and again by going to KPIV and Sutton and Wild Horse, and Italy and maybe even finding gainful employment.  Then all I hear is tick tick tick and figure screw it, we only pass through here once...  might as well go golfing. ::) ;D 8)  So to answer your question, let's call Mark and start a head count for Sutton if he is still OK with it...

We can start by those interested send me IM or e-mail just indicating your interest.  Plan on late April or early May, and we will see what Mark can do, if anything during one of those weekends.  A head count now of those interested, no promises of a date certain yet.  Then, if we get a date, we will recount who is in for sure and re-confirm with Mark.
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ed_getka

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2005, 02:22:01 AM »
Dick,
   How long does it take you to drive to Sutton Bay from where you live?
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Evan Fleisher

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2005, 08:13:59 AM »
Maybe some of us poor saps down in Iowa will caravan/carpool it up there...oh Doug, where are 'ya?!?!?

It's only a mere 10 hour trip from D'oh-buque...yikes!!!
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Tom_Doak

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2005, 08:36:10 AM »
I'd like to do that, but more likely in June or July, after we've got Stone Eagle and Sebonack put to bed.

ForkaB

Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2005, 08:37:36 AM »
Dan (tm) Kelly and I have been exploring such a trip for September, posssibly to include a site or two further south.......

RJ_Daley

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2005, 12:02:44 PM »
Of course I can't speak for Mark A., as to what week he might be able to do this.  Right now, I'm only going by what he has previously said were possiblities for late April, early May.  I now have 7 folks that have raised their hands as a show of interest.

TD, mid summer won't work because there are membership obligations and it puts way too much pressure on Mark, as he obviously must be fully attentive to members at that time.  But, having an archetect or two involved with some side time to tramp the vast property, as Mark suggested, looking at the routing possiblities and constraints, would be a great deal of fun for some of us.  Although, some others have already said that a morning or afternoon of doing that, and not actually playing an 18 hole loop in a multiple loop day was not what they would be interested in.  I think you know where I stand on that!  By the time we're done, they'll have 36 more potential holes!!!! ;) ;D  ( really do think from what I have seen that they have maximized the property features at highest-best routing)

Rich, I just spoke to Dan on the phone, and he told me the fall plans.  I think that separate itinerary ought to be pursued as a smaller band of roving prairie schooners, in which I'd be interested to go again.  I make the prairie run spring and fall each year anyway.

Ed, Sutton would be about 14-15 hours drive from Green Bay, just about the same as the ride out to Wild Horse at 13.5-14.
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Daryl "Turboe" Boe

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2005, 04:34:54 PM »
I will maybe try to drop and email to Mark and make sure that he checks in on this thread.  I dont know for sure what my availability will be for this I know I have several things going on late in Apr. and early in May, but that doesnt mean that the trip wont happen then anyway.  I will let Mark make his comments on what works best for him, but from my reccollections of SD isnt it still a tad chilly and/or maybe white in April?  

Lets see what Mark says, and go from there.  I would love to get up there on this trip, I just dont know if I will be able to make it or not.

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Dan Kelly

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2005, 05:17:32 PM »
...isnt it still a tad chilly and/or maybe white in April?  

A tad chilly at April's end? Possibly.

White? Not at all likely.

From wunderground.com, these historical facts for nearby Gettysburg, SD, for May 1:

Average High: 63 °F / 17 °C
Record High:  92 °F / 33 °C (1959)
Average Low: 38 °F / 3 °C
Record Low:  23 °F / -5 °C (1961)
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Doug Siebert

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2005, 06:55:38 PM »
Maybe some of us poor saps down in Iowa will caravan/carpool it up there...oh Doug, where are 'ya?!?!?

It's only a mere 10 hour trip from D'oh-buque...yikes!!!


I already sent Dick a message last night that I'm definitely interested in this.

I remember checking when this was first discussed and it was a little over 600 miles from Iowa City, at the time I figured it at about 7 to 8 hours, but I just got dinged by the man in Missouri last month so that goes up by an hour as I have to be good for a while! ;D

Once we have a date we can see about carpooling.  As long as I'm on the road, I was thinking about doing a side trip to NE if the the weather looked good and I wasn't too busy at the time.
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Bill Gayne

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2005, 07:20:29 PM »
For those so inclined a fall date would be great for the legendary bird hunting in S.D. given Sutton Bay is both a golf and hunt club.

RJ_Daley

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2005, 07:53:43 PM »
We are up to 10-12 showing hands.  One fellow might bring two non-GCAers.  As stated above, let's just see how many express interest in the spring fling.  Then we will call Mark and see if it is feasible.  We will try for 3-4 weeks lead time for final scheduling and preparations and confirmations of who can attend.  

Remember, this is a growing membership, and a short season that also has to accomodate member interest in fishing (world class) hunting, and golf.  So Mark gets to be a busy manager.  The spring weeks mentioned really are the only time it is right for him and the club.

Still hoping for some architects to jump in to add to the experience.  Forrest... routing seminar... hint, hint. ;D
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Don Dinkmeyer

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2005, 09:25:27 PM »
At the risk of introducing myself, if this were in May, if you'd have me i would be interested to fit this into my schedule. I'm a univ prof and we're "free" at that time of year.

Daryl "Turboe" Boe

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2005, 11:07:00 PM »
...isnt it still a tad chilly and/or maybe white in April?  

A tad chilly at April's end? Possibly.

White? Not at all likely.

From wunderground.com, these historical facts for nearby Gettysburg, SD, for May 1:

Average High: 63 °F / 17 °C
Record High:  92 °F / 33 °C (1959)
Average Low: 38 °F / 3 °C
Record Low:  23 °F / -5 °C (1961)

Dont tell me it cant be white, I remember driving back from a weekend getaway on my motorcycle in July trying to get back for work monday morning (back when I was single and getting back ment leaving monday morning in time to get home for work) and having to drive through a snowstorm in July in SD.  (Albiet in the Black Hills).

However, I can just remember on more than one occasion watching that little tournament that they have down there in Augusta in April on TV when I lived in SD and looking out the window and thinking this sure doesnt look like the weather in Wolsey, SD.  That is all I am saying.  It can be a crap shoot in April.
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RJ_Daley

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2005, 11:24:15 PM »
There is probably something like a .05% chance for snow by then.  Oh it might be cold requiring jackets and wool hats, or it could be 92.  But, even if it snowed, there is as great of a chance it will melt upon hitting the ground or in the morning, that we'd still play.  If your luck is running so bad as snow in July Daryl, you probably won't want to golf anyway.  You might shoot somewhere near my score! :o

I just exchanged e-mails with Mark and we can proceed with this plan, concentrating on last week of April or first week or possibly two in May.  Keep raising your hands for who wants to get in on it, and we will be setting a date certain soon.  Just IM me your name and that this general time frame is possible.  Of course the way these things usually go, someone can't make a particular date, but we'll try to get the most favorable for the most guys.  Mark says after we pick the date, you can call in with credit cards for deposits, so once we get the dates set, it will be up to you all to commit the old plastic! ;) ;D
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ForkaB

Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2005, 09:39:13 AM »
At the risk of introducing myself, if this were in May, if you'd have me i would be interested to fit this into my schedule. I'm a univ prof and we're "free" at that time of year.

Don

Even though I may not go to Sutton Bay, you should know that we on GCA are quite discriminating as to who we let come along or such boondoggles.  If your academic specialalite is physics, for example, if you are into string theory, OK, but if your bag is a collapsing universe, don't even bother making the trip.  If you are into French literature, Baudleaire is OK but Gide is just so yesterday.  Vis a vis Home Economics, we tend to stongly prefer In-and-Out Burgers to any form of sushi (although, I hear, this is changing).

Check with the Emperor before you make any commitments,and if you cut the mustard, by all means join us (even if I am not part of "us" on those days).

Cheers

Rich

Don Dinkmeyer

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2005, 11:30:16 AM »
Ok - now i know i'm home!  ;)

I'm a marriage and family counseling doctorate --  so by "free" I meant I don't charge for the advice dispensed during the trip!! (pay for what you get theory)...

Thanks, gentlemen!  :D

At the risk of introducing myself, if this were in May, if you'd have me i would be interested to fit this into my schedule. I'm a univ prof and we're "free" at that time of year.

Don

Even though I may not go to Sutton Bay, you should know that we on GCA are quite discriminating as to who we let come along or such boondoggles.  If your academic specialalite is physics, for example, if you are into string theory, OK, but if your bag is a collapsing universe, don't even bother making the trip.  If you are into French literature, Baudleaire is OK but Gide is just so yesterday.  Vis a vis Home Economics, we tend to stongly prefer In-and-Out Burgers to any form of sushi (although, I hear, this is changing).

Check with the Emperor before you make any commitments,and if you cut the mustard, by all means join us (even if I am not part of "us" on those days).

Cheers

Rich

Jason Hines

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2005, 10:25:00 PM »
Dick/Mark, let me know the date, I am putting off two business trips around this one.  Which ever weekend it is, I will be driving from Omaha, so if anyone needs picked up in Sioux Falls or Sioux City (Northwest), let me know.

Jason

Michael Whitaker

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2005, 10:29:49 PM »
Dick - I was hoping for June. No can do April or May. Thanks for the effort. I look forward to reading about the adventure.
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cary lichtenstein

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2005, 02:30:24 AM »
Don:

The price of admission to this group, is when you meet up with us, you tell us your about your kinkiest patients.

So if you don't want to break any confidences, start making up some doozies. ;D
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RJ_Daley

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2005, 08:21:56 AM »
Jason H., I don't remember asking YOU!.... because YOU are a foregone conclusion! ;D 8)



All aboard! ;D
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Tony Petersen

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Re:Sutton Bay, Spring Outing?
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2005, 08:11:42 PM »
 ;D If you guys happen to get a group together for an outing at Sutton Bay, I would love to join. I have heard from more than one friend that they enjoyed Sutton Bay MORE than Sand Hills.... I guess you could say that I have to see (and play) it to believe it!!! Would love to join if you have room for a Tournament Director with just a little game LOL ;D
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