[THuckaby2]

John... OK... that does make sense... so then relating this to the golf bags, it means more things CAN "fall through" if the shape is oval... and thus getting sticks in and out is easier?

Hoping for less ignorance...  

TH

[George Pazin]

"no fear of the cover falling through."

Precisely.

Score one for the math geeks!

[THuckaby2]

You do get one for this, George.

But this begs for me to trot out some words to live by I came up with several years ago (although if Rich Goodale sees this I'm sure he'll claim them as his own):

Newton tells us how
Shakespeare tell us why.

Oh, the "how" matters, big time.  Modern society depends on it.

But the "why" delves so much more into the soul... and is so much more interesting... and timeless.

So by my reckoning, the word geeks are always going to be way ahead.

So why do street creators use round manhole covers?  Sure, the simple answer is so that they won't fall through the hole.  The fare more interesting answer would delve into the tragic occurrences of man's inhumanity to man, and the darkness of his soul.

 

[George Pazin]

Without Newton telling us how, Shakespeare would just be sittin' in a tavern, using his poetry to pick up chicks.

Anything to distract folks from the real thinkers....

[PThomas]

this thread is great, cause now when my wife asks what this newbie is talking to you guys about I can tell her Newton , Shakespeare, etc!

[THuckaby2]

Paul, I aim to please.

 

And George, without Shakespeare there would be no man to begin with.  You need to read Harold Bloom's "Shakespeare:  The Invention of the Human."  Recommended to me by our own Dan Kelly, btw.

Or maybe not.  Numbers geeks don't tend to get any farther in this than I would in an engineering textbook.

 

[Rick Shefchik]

Quick question for you carry/moon bag guys: Don't the grips of your clubs get wet when you play early in the morning or in the rain, and you can't find something on which to lean the bag? I went to a stand bag for that very reason -- the grips stay dry unless the club comes out of the bag.

Or do they make cheap waterproof moonbags?

[THuckaby2]

Rick:

In morning dew rounds or others in wet conditions, the grips only get wet if you set the bag repeatedly in wet places... you learn quickly NOT to do that, to lean it against trees, benches, etc.  Obviously these bags patently SUCK in the rain though - you also learn quickly not to use them in such rounds - they aren't waterproof, as you have seen.  Either that or you get caught with soaked everything, as I did at Pasatiempo with Brian Gracely and John Krystynak last year...

 

You must play a lot in the rain.

 

[George Pazin]

And George, without Shakespeare there would be no man to begin with.  You need to read Harold Bloom's "Shakespeare:  The Invention of the Human."  Recommended to me by our own Dan Kelly, btw.

Or maybe not.  Numbers geeks don't tend to get any farther in this than I would in an engineering textbook.

 

Got it. Started it. Got bored quick.

I am but a primitive math and science geek - your words confuse and frighten me.

Rick -

You can always pick up an inexpensive plastic covering bag at any sporting good store.

Most laugh at my "solution" to a light stand bag - I have a children's bag that I bought for about $40. It's very high quality and super light, even with legs. I usually carry 7 or 8 clubs in it, but could probably fit 10 or 12 comfortably.

Most don't notice the difference unless they look closely, though most do notice the paucity of clubs.

[THuckaby2]

George:

I'm just proud of you for two things:  

1. Your use of the word "paucity" - well done - worthy of the finest word geeks; and

2. Invocation of the wisdom of Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer.  Very very well done.

 

[Rick Shefchik]

Thanks, Tom and George. I want to go to a light bag, and you've given me some incentive.

Tom, in Minnesota we play in everything. We get a lot of sunshine in the summer, but those are the days you want to play early in the morning to beat the heat and humidty -- and those dewy mornings, more than the rain, drove me to the stand bag.

Well, that and the sleet.

[THuckaby2]

Gotcha, Rick.  I kinda figured neither rain nor sleet nor gloom of night would keep you Minnesotans from your appointed rounds.

OK, maybe even you don't play in gloom of night.

 

So... just figure this tiny moon bag is for good weather, keep the stand bag for use in all other.  Here's hoping you do get to use the moon bag often.

TH

[Scott_Burroughs]

2. Invocation of the wisdom of Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer.  Very very well done.

yes.  And I counter with the Chewbacca Defense.

[THuckaby2]

 

that most definitely elicited audible yuks.  still is...

 

[Steve Lang]

 

1. I thought they put tarps on teh greens in Minnesota in late Ocober and didn't take them off till april???

2.  Those trying to go "pure".. why do you care how much the bag weighs.. you're using a caddy arn't ye laddy?

3.  The gca tour bag must be able to hide at least a smaller beverage cooler...

[Jeff Shelman]

Shiv,

You gonna get the tour bag with the radio in it? Or are you going to upgrade to the CD player?

[Zack Kelly]

Guys I spoke with Ping Yesterday and they said that once I can get artworked emailed to them they can have a better idea of set up costs.  The moon bags cost $35 plus Embroidery, and set up costs, the hoofer cost $99 ++.  The moon bags can only be Embroidered the hoofer can be embroidered or silk screened. I haven't heard back from Titleist.  They have an 8 bag min for each type of bag, so as long as I get 8 people that want each we can do both.  Thanks for all of the responses.

[THuckaby2]

Zack - sounds great to me, and many thanks for the legwork.  Put me down for a moonbag, whatever it costs.

TH

[George Pazin]

Embroidery generally allows for more colors, though not as much detail. Stitch count is crucial for pricing. Most designs end up costing maybe 5-10 bucks for stitching plus 50-100 in setup. Simpler will be cheaper, regardless of whether it's printing or emroidery. It sounds like it might be possible to offer both types of bags, if the minimums for each is attained.

I still think simpler is better, artwork-wise. Something like the masthead is probably out of the question, embroidery-wise - too much detail. I'm surprised they won't print the moon bag - heck, I could print that & I'm a t shirt printer!

Re: pricing, I say we throw on an extra $25 or so and remit it to Ran for the site.

[THuckaby2]

OK, seriously, isn't this just an exercise in silly conspicuous consumption?  What the hell do I need yet another golf bag for?  I have 5, maybe more.  Personally, unless you really need one or are buying one for your kid or wife or whatever, aren't those inclined to buy yet another golf bag for no good reason better off just sending Ran the dough?

My current moonie bag is wearing out.  I was gonna buy another anyway.  If doing so can help out the site, I'm all for it.

Does that meet your requirements, shivas?

 

[THuckaby2]

Whoa... that's funny.  I never buy more than I immediately need.  Different strokes.

So ok, if you do have lots of bags already, then heck yeah, just donate the cash to Ran.

TH

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