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Steve_ Shaffer

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Losantiville CC, Cincinnati, OH(The Ridge Club)
« on: January 26, 2005, 08:32:19 AM »
Does anyone have any information about this club and course that was founded in the early 1900s? This was all I could find at golfonline:
This older, traditional course is best known for its well-manicured greens. The small greens are severely undulating at times, full of subtle breaks, and always maintained as fast speeds. The fairways are tree lined and bordered by a multiple cut of rough. The club hosted the National Pro AM here in the 1970's.


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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re:Losantiville CC, Cincinnati, OH
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2005, 02:47:49 PM »
Losantiville is now known as The Ridge Club having merged with another nearby club-Crest Hills. I understand Crest Hills golf course is now for sale.

From cincinnatigolf.com

The Ridge Club

Historic Losantiville, Crest Hills Country Clubs Combine To Form New Entity

By Ed Letsinger

An interesting and unique concept was hatched in the local Cincinnati golf community this year.  The private country clubs known as Losantiville Country Club and Crest Hills Country Club partnered their existence, combining history, amenities and memberships by creating a new entity that now operates under the name of The Ridge Club.

Members of both clubs overwhelmingly approved the merger earlier in the year, according to Leesa Mitchell, director of marketing for The Ridge Club.  “It’s extremely unique,” she said of the combining of clubs.  “Country clubs have changed over the years and are always evolving and changing to meet the needs of society.  This will make us a stronger entity,” Mitchell said.

Several factors played into the decision to merge clubs, says Mitchell, one being a saturation of the market.  “There are 11 private clubs within a 20-minute drive of here (The Ridge Club),” she explained.  “The financial ramifications of that played a large part in the decision.”  

Now these two historic clubs, with 160 years of combined history and located close to each other in Amberly Village (Crest Hills) and Pleasant Ridge (Losantiville), provide members with a multitude of options, especially with the convenience of two clubhouses.  This includes a variety of dining opportunities, heated swimming pool, 10 clay, lighted tennis courts, paddle tennis complete with heated accommodations and a host of social activities that entertain both young and older members.  Private dining and meeting rooms complete with customized event and menu planning are available.

A full service tennis pro shop offers racquet maintenance, special orders and tennis apparel.  Personal tennis lessons are available for members, offered by the club’s own tennis pro, Eric Toth.  Members also enjoy fully serviced men’s and women’s locker rooms, including towel service and shoe service.

In addition to the privileges enjoyed by The Ridge Club’s social members, golf members benefit from the union of two mature 18-hole golf courses.  The 36 holes of golf are considered the “gem” of The Ridge Club and the distinct character of each course provides numerous playing challenges for all ability levels.  “I believe the intent is to keep this a 36-hole facility.  It’s the largest asset of the club,” Mitchell said.

The two golf courses provide The Ridge Club golfing members with the opportunity to play golf seven days a week.  Both golf shops are fully stocked with top of the line equipment and apparel for the male and female golfer.  Golf lessons are available with a PGA accredited professional staff lead by Brian Harp at Crest Hills and Bob Stephens at Losantiville.  Club storage and club shuttle service are available (phone 24 hours in advance to have clubs at the course you plan to play).

Mitchell says response to the new entity from current and new members has been good.  “We’re trying to bring the two communities together,” she said.

Keeping with the tradition of both clubs, The Ridge Club has remained a private not-for-profit organization, operated solely for the pleasure of its members.  Membership is by invitation.  Several membership categories exist, including Sports, Junior Sports, Social and Corporate Sponsored.  Membership dues are an annual charge and monthly payments are made available for members’ convenience.  All members are responsible for a food and beverage minimum determined by their category of membership.  All initiation fees and dues are taxable and are non-refundable.  Members may be held responsible for assessments as deemed necessary by the Board of Governors and approved by the membership.

Decisions loom on the horizon for The Ridge Club.  Mitchell said management is focusing on the possibility of adding a new fitness facility and technology-ready meeting room.  Enhanced locker room facilities, increased casual and outdoor dining, and an increase in family-friendly areas such as a children’s game room are being discussed.  At some point, according to Mitchell, a vote will be put in place to determine which of the two existing clubhouses will be renovated, she says.  “It’s an ever-changing business,” Mitchell adds.
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re:Losantiville CC, Cincinnati, OH(The Ridge Club)
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2005, 02:52:27 PM »
I have learned that Crest Hills is now closed as a result of the merger and is now for sale. This course was designed by a Bob Simmons. Does anyone know anything about him as an architect or the club itself?

Has no one ever played either of these courses?

Steve
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Stuart_Bendelow

Re:Losantiville CC, Cincinnati, OH(The Ridge Club)
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2005, 08:37:51 PM »
Losantville CC, Cincinnati, OH, is listed as a Tom Bendelow design in 1906.

Jim Sweeney

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Re:Losantiville CC, Cincinnati, OH(The Ridge Club)
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2005, 09:48:11 PM »
Well. One could write a term paper about the history of the merger of Losantiville CC and Crest Hills CC into a single entity, the Ridge Club.

Mr. Shaffer is correct. The Crest Hills course lies fallow in the middle of Amberly Village, a township on the North side of Cincinnati. A home developer recently tried to buy it, but his plan was rejected by the zoning commission. Several groups, including the Greater Cincinnati Golf Association, investigated buying it to operate as a public course, but this is very valuable land, so the financials just don't work for the Cincinnati market. And the zoning would probably be impossible. So the Ridge Club is, for now, stuck with property taxes and building maintenance until the right selling situation comes along.

The Crest Hills (Bob Simmons) course was rather short and not too difficult, but it was fun to play. It hosted a Pro/Scratch event each April. In addition to Losantiville, area private clubs include Makatewa (Ross), Camargo (Raynor), and  Kenwood (Diddle), so it had some pretty high profile neighbors.

Now on to Losantiville. Designed by Tom Bendelow, the course sits on a very small piece of land which includes substantial elevation changes. One might consider the course "quirky," due to a number of blind tee shots, quick dog legs, and the legedary (at least among Cincinnati golfers) greens.

This may be the set of greens which are the most difficult to read that I have ever played. They are simply baffling. I've not played Augusta National, and will not make a comparison; however, there are a half dozen greens at Losantiville that putt similarly to what I've witnessed (in person) on the ninth at Augusta.

Losantiville would be a good course to play with hickories. Although it may seem paradoxical, its length (or lack there of), and the "quirk" factor, render length off the tee irrevelant, with the exception of perhaps five holes. Placement is key. Because of the severity of the greens, one must have an open shot for the approach. Having to fly greenside bunkers means being unable to keep the ball below the hole, and three putts will be the norm for many.

It has been said that there are no uphill putts at Losantiville; the green are so sever that most putts must be played well above the hole, meaning that the final few feet are straight downhill.

The one-shotters are Losantiville's particular strength. The second hole is 186 yards over water to a small green that slopes right to left toward the pond. There is room to bail out to the right, leaving the golfer who plays the conservative shot a recovery from rough hillside or bunker back downhill toward the water. The seventh and eleventh both stretch past 200 yards, the seventh playing all uphill, and the eleventh with out-of-bounds hard to the right. The seventeenth, which is not original, is the week sister in this group, at 165 yards and level a rather simple hole, though missing the green in any direction can easily result in bogey on what was an enticing opportunity.

An interesting aside: Losantiville was the home club of the legendary golf collector and dealer Mort Ohlman, who literally wrote the book on golf collectibles. (I'm sorry I cannot recall the title right now.) Mort was a character, and so he and Losantiville are a perfect fit, because this course exudes character. In its way it is a unique as Camargo among Greater Cincinnati courses. One would not go out of one's way to play it, but would be very glad he did if the opportunity arose.






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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re:Losantiville CC, Cincinnati, OH(The Ridge Club)
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2005, 11:40:54 PM »
Jim

Thanks for the information.

Steve
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JLahrman

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Re:Losantiville CC, Cincinnati, OH(The Ridge Club)
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2005, 11:28:51 PM »
I didn't realize the two had merged, but Crest Hills has definitely been let go.  I didn't know that it hadn't been sold yet, but it is just a weedy field at this point in time.  Must be a price issue as Amberley Village is a relatively nice part of town.  It's been a long time since I've played either course but Jim's description is accurate as far as I can remember.  I recall having all sorts of difficulty with Losantiville's greens.
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