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Brian_Gracely

Pine Needles restoration looks excellent!!
« on: December 22, 2004, 05:17:12 PM »
Had the chance to play Pine Needles today (63*, Sunny) and the restoration looks great.  All of the holes and tees were open and the course was playing fairly firm and fast, especially the fairways which seem to be somewhat sandcapped (not MPCC firm, but 20yds of roll).  The fairways are still somewhat patchy and the greens were shaggy (maybe 7-8), but they putted very true and it appears they did an admirable job restoring the shape and contours of the greens.  The fairway bunkering looks excellent(!!), particularly #7, 12, 14, 15, 18.

Things I noted:

- They restored alot of area to the greens. #5, 7, 11, 15, 17 felt really large.
 
- #3 green doesn't feel as severely sloped as I remember it in the past.  

- #6 and #7 are both about 460-475yds now, but in different wind directions.  #7 played incredibly tough today into the wind.

- When the large areas of love-grass fully come in, it's going to have alot of the look of the very early Pinehurst area pictures.  

- The added length to #10 helps (535yds), but it's still very reachable in two.  But the tee-shot is alot more fun to try and get around the corner now.

- With the switch of Par on #14 and #15 (now 4, 5), the finishing stretch is VERY challenging.  

Tony_Chapman

Re:Pine Needles restoration looks excellent!!
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2004, 05:33:38 PM »
You da man BG, what a Christmas present!!  ;) I want photos, I want photos!!

Sean_A

Re:Pine Needles restoration looks excellent!!
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2004, 05:52:21 PM »
Brian

Thanks for the report.  I will be down there for a 1:00 tee time on Good Friday with my brother-in-law.  Are you interested in a game?

Ciao

Sean
New plays planned for 2025: Machrihanish Dunes, Dunaverty and Carradale

Brian_Gracely

Re:Pine Needles restoration looks excellent!!
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2004, 06:14:18 PM »
You da man BG, what a Christmas present!!  ;) I want photos, I want photos!!

Sorry, I forgot to bring the camera.  :(

Brian_Gracely

Re:Pine Needles restoration looks excellent!!
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2004, 06:37:43 PM »
Brian

Thanks for the report.  I will be down there for a 1:00 tee time on Good Friday with my brother-in-law.  Are you interested in a game?

Ciao

Sean

Very possibly.  Ping me as the date gets closer.  Always happy to play with another Michigander that's come down to NC.

Brent Hutto

Re:Pine Needles restoration looks excellent!!
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2004, 07:07:49 PM »
Great news, thanks Brian. Pine Needles in a very special course and I can't wait to get back there and play it in its new attire.

Mark_F

Re:Pine Needles restoration looks excellent!!
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2004, 11:09:12 PM »
So Brian, Pine Needles and the other Pinehurst area courses are playable year round?

Would you miss anything by playing this time of year? And I don't mean just golf; the area itself.

Brian_Gracely

Re:Pine Needles restoration looks excellent!!
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2004, 07:41:12 AM »
So Brian, Pine Needles and the other Pinehurst area courses are playable year round?

I have played in Pinehurst and as far north as Raleigh in all 12 months, but late-Nov to early-Feb is borderline hit-and-miss....meaning, you might get a 60-70* Sunny day and you might get 25* Rain.  It's definitely not Florida, but I'd say about 50% of the days are playable in reasonable conditions.
I'd say yesterday was sort of a fluke, but last weekend (45-55* and Partially Sunny) was fairly normal.

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Would you miss anything by playing this time of year? And I don't mean just golf; the area itself.

Not sure what you mean by "miss anything"?  Please elaborate.

A.G._Crockett

Re:Pine Needles restoration looks excellent!!
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2004, 09:35:47 AM »
Brian,
My round at Hope Valley yesterday fell through; one buddy out of town.  But I did play at Croasdaile with the third of our group, the first time that I have been there since John Lafoy renovated the George Cobb design.  I thought the work was excellent; have you been there?  If so, what were your thoughts?

(Keeping my fingers crossed for this afternoon if the weather lets up a little for Finley...)
"Golf...is usually played with the outward appearance of great dignity.  It is, nevertheless, a game of considerable passion, either of the explosive type, or that which burns inwardly and sears the soul."      Bobby Jones

Tony_Chapman

Re:Pine Needles restoration looks excellent!!
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2004, 09:37:57 AM »
No pics, oh well. They do have some pictures of the restoration at their website: www.pineneedles-midpines.com

I also like the new logo!!


kgrace

Re:Pine Needles restoration looks excellent!!
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2004, 12:00:42 PM »
AG - I played at match at Croasdaile about a month ago and really enjoyed the course.  The NC State Am was played there over the summer - it understandably played much longer in November.  Huge greens, some of the purest I have played all year.  I never played the course prior to the renovation so I have no way to make a comparison - it's really an enjoyable course to play, even if you lose your match.  It should clear up this afternoon, enjoy your round at Finley.  Let us know your thoughts on #18.
Kevin