[john_stiles]

Shinnecock (based on TV broadcast) could only have been better with fewer commercials,  less whining,  and maybe less commentary.

You have all the network guys, the Golf Channel, and the players complaining.  All the complaining was too much and that is my only complaint.  Hitting the mute button helped quite a bit from time to time.

In other words,  the tournament was just fine IMO.

Sea side (LI sound) golf course with ........... maybe rain or no rain, maybe fog or no fog, maybe very sunny or little sun, wind, maybe high winds from north or south,  maybe the winds shift during the day.........would seem to make for a tough task to dial in all the parameters for course setup.

The course was fine. It didn't bother me to see the best struggle or birdie any of the holes and I did not care if minus X or plus X won.

[ForkaB]

Pat

Your most recent post just supports my theory that SH is not "elastic" enough to deal with the modern game.  OK, maybe if you pinched in the fairways at 300-350 or so, you might be able to counteract that "punchbowl" effect that you mention and I'm sure Flynn designed for the 2nd shots of the oldest members.

Absent of that, you just have to accept that the big boys can bomb it over any of the hazards that were designed for 1930's golf, and either turn the greens in "goofy golf" spectacles, or just lie back and enjoy watching the greatest players in the world eat up a golf course that would eat up 99.9% of the golfers in the world, including all of us.

Rolling back the ball is the blindingly obvious answer to this dilemma, as you and I and others have said many times on this forum.

[Patrick_Mucci]

Rich Goodale,

I think you'd have to include almost every classic course in your elasticity category.

Come to think of it, which courses would qualify for your elasticity category, that's a tough bill to fill.

[Mark_Fine]

Tom Doak,
Have you ever softened greens before on great classic golf courses?  If so, why?  What makes #7 so special in your mind?  The hole is marginally playable at 8 on the stimp let alone 13 or what ever it was.  What would you have done with that hole?  Just curious.
Mark

[Robert Mercer Deruntz]

The USGA pushed the envelope on the weekend.  The pin on 1  was a joke.  They could have made the fairways less firm and used better pins and would have ended up with less complaining and probably the same scores.  On Sunday, the USGA violated the the idea of equity by watering 7.  

[ForkaB]

Pat

Dornoch, of course

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