Ed;
My experience for years with green committees--on them--dealing with them, has been for some reason they tend to look at almost everything considered, architecture, maintenance, whatever, only through the eyes of good players. I'm not sure why that is exactly---pride in the defense of the course via scoring, some possible awe in good players so their opinions which tend to focus on ONLY their own games dominates the issue etc. Not sure why this happens as much as it does but in the context of a general membership it can become a real problem in so many ways---architecture, maintenance, God knows what.
I so often see discussions on this website only in the context of good players games, often the touring pro's game, even if those doing the discussing may not be that good. Sometimes it merely fixates on length considerations only and on those who hit the ball really long--something that a very small percentage of golfers do or do consistently.
So I wrote a thread here saying that I thought everyone should both think about and discuss architecture in more general terms or at least make the effort to look at it from the perspective of most golfers' games, even the little old lady and even if they just do that occasionally.
I don't see what's arrogant about that and I can't see I ever called anyone here idiots for doing that---merely unwilling to discuss architecture this way or perhaps unconcerned about the way probably the vast majortiy of golfers play the game and need to think about it.
So if you really think that's arrogant on my part or I'm having a bad hair-day then, again, I'm sorry about that but after your last post all I'll say is that's just too bad if you think this thread is arrogant on my part. I see this issue and subject, generally speaking and particularly at the green committee level, as a problem and I don't mind saying so.
Matter of fact, it seems to me it wouldn't be a bad idea if this website started a section called "The Green Committee" and maybe more on here could see what goes on in a green committee setting regarding golf courses, architecture and maintenance issues. It's just amazing to me how many golfers, most particularly good ones, look at the entire subject ONLY through the top players game. I see nothing wrong with everyone learning better to see the entire subject through the eyes and games of others who don't play the same way they do, again particularly the good and very long player!