Obsession with Wild Greens

[guesst]

I'm so sorry I missed that!  I now celebrate Renaissance Casual Friday.  Haiku Tuesday would be a welcome addition.  You are the first gentlemen poets I have ever met.  Astonishing, the range of abilities on this board!

Perhaps we could reinstate Haiku day.  Kudos would be awarded for the best poem describing a course and its location, as well as for pegging it from the information given.  All right, gentlemen.  The challenge is on.  Seventeen syllables (or less), three lines (typically arranged 5/7/5), evoking a sense of place.  
 
Name That Course  

Routing is a mess
Oasis in the desert
Sand swallows water

[THuckaby2]

Darva:

That simply must be
The stranger of the courses
at Lake Las Vegas?

TH

[Dan Kelly]

Is there something wrong
With liking both wild and not --
So long as both "work"?

Give me fast and flat.
Or slower, contoured, crazy.
I could putt all day!

A lousy haiku,
But a thought well worth thinking:
It's a great big world ...

[THuckaby2]

Infinite putting
is golf for poor Sisyphus
damn modern green speeds

[JSlonis]

With the green speeds of modern golf, many of the older & bolder features are now nearly unplayable.

I recall a picture of an incredible green in the recent Dr. MacKenzie book.  Unfortunately, I can't recall the name of the course.  I believe it has since been changed. I'll have to look when I get home.

C & C's Hidden Creek has some very bold greens.  The design there works because the features are large and located within very big greens.  What is important is the scale of the contours match the overall size, and even with quick greens, their design still works.

A golf haiku:

I love Pine Valley
Hoping the round never ends
I thank you George Crump

[Dan Kelly]

With the green speeds of modern golf, many of the older & bolder features are now nearly unplayable.

Why not slow them down?
Variety: spice of life!
All roads aren't highways.

[Dan Kelly]

Infinite putting
is golf for poor Sisyphus
damn modern green speeds

If he just can't putt,
Sisyphus shouldn't play golf.
Driving range for him!

[Mike_Cirba]

Poor old Tillinghast
Sold out to the PGA
Removing bunkers  

[THuckaby2]

Sisyphus's rock
is really fun stuff more than
these damn modern greens

TH

ps - OK, I can't keep this up!  

[JSlonis]

Dan,

Teased with faster greens
Golfers like a quick paced putt
Slow down unlikely

[Dan Kelly]

Poor old Tillinghast
Sold out to the PGA
Removing bunkers  

Is this a case of
mistaken identity?
True villain? Burbeck!

[George Pazin]

Call me a weird guy
But I like wild bumpy greens
No flat greens for me

I think subtle is overrated - at least when it comes to fun. Maybe they're good for testing the better player (wouldn't know personally), but one of the few joys left for me in golf is curling in a putt with a good break, whether it's a 20 footer with 6 feet of break, a 40 footer with 2 breaks, or a 4 footer with a foot. A 10 footer with 2 inches of "curl" isn't satisfying at all.

Kinda like a dumb blonde that lays still.

[guesst]

Tom,

Routing is a mess                
Oasis in the desert                  
Sand swallows water

Greens are very fast.
Zoom!  The ball flies past the cup!
Good thing there's a view.

You can see for miles
Water snaking through desert
Cascata, indeed.

Men of many gifts.
You're far too clever for me.
Rapt admiration.


Who started this?  

George,

Know just what you mean.  If one must have a dumb blonde, let her be a cowgirl.  

[George Pazin]

For me, personally, one of the hardest things to judge is when an architect has used a wild green properly. I think it probably takes repeat plays to determine if greens are wild and interesting or wild and silly. I loved the greens at The Rawls Course, but others thought them over the top. I also liked how the greens at Mirosol looked to play on TV, but again others thought they were silly.

How do you determine if a wild green is wild interesting or wild silly? (They're all wild fun to me! )

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