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ed_getka

Re:The 11th at Kingsley
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2004, 10:17:37 PM »
Joe,
  where is the fun in that? I want to earn my seven! ;D


I am glad to see that Kingsley is getting more recognition in the golf world, it is wholly deserved.

How's the knee Mr D?
"Perimeter-weighted fairways", The best euphemism for containment mounding I've ever heard.

Jlyon

Re:The 11th at Kingsley
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2004, 11:03:50 PM »
Steve, at the KC member-guest tourney you would get your wish.  There is a championship shoot off on the 9th hole with 5 teams (one from each flight).   Alternate shot, worst score is eliminated (no handicap).  This is great fun and suspense.  A different tee and three different hole locations are cut.  My team was eliminated on the first hole after I hit it over the green, and yes as you requested, there was an adrenline rush.  Funny thing is, that the lowest hdcp flight has yet to win the tourney.

Mike_DeVries

Re:The 11th at Kingsley
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2004, 11:04:37 PM »
Steve,

No nerve touching here -- my knee has had enough of that recently!   :o  And I certainly appreciate your opinion -- it would be fun to play sometime and then discuss a course over dinner and a few. :)

Seriously, what I am trying to get across is my philosophy on why the routing is the way it is.  Whether you or others find the back easier is irrelevant -- I look for the best rhythm and flow, not a build to the most demanding finish.  Maybe I am just not getting your point.  

As to a better finishing hole, rarely is a par 3 optimal (Garden City is quite a hole, but it is the only one that I can think of that I really like that is a par 3 18th).  At Kingsley, the 9th can be easy if you hit a great tee shot or recovery, or it can be brutally hard if you get in the wrong spot.  On 18, a medium (400 yard) par four, you have a number of options and need to execute, but your margin of error is not quite as small as on 9.  The safer drive is to the right side of the fairway, but that generally leads to an all-carry approach over trouble (although a finely punched mid-iron can thread the needle on the approach and work its way to the front or middle of the green -- a really fun shot when you pull it off!) and the riskier drive to the left could leave a better angle on the approach or give you a hanging lie.  The beauty of it is that you make a choice and if you don't execute, you get the opportunity to pull it off with a great recovery -- I think that is the sign of a fun and strategic hole.

As for a playoff, we can do that on #9, #18, or to the practice chipping green at Kingsley.  Both 9 and 18 have good gallery viewing from the clubhouse and that is nice.  For club events, we have used the ninth for playoffs on several occasions and it is great fun, choosing different tees and pins for continuing playoffs.

Discussions such as these are great food for the soul and what GCA relishes.

RJ_Daley

Re:The 11th at Kingsley
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2004, 11:25:50 PM »
Ed, Ed, Ed, ;D
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I know I will never go to upper Michigan without playing TKC. If I could convince my wife to move up there I would join the club (assuming they would have the likes of me). That says it all about the course for me. I would NEVER get bored of golfing there.

DA part dat would get boring der has you tiscripe is te long drive from ta yooper Mitchiken acrosst ta big bridtch and way down sout ta Traversity. ::) :P  But, spoken like a true Yooper, noneta-less.  Jus giver a littel Escananba in ta moonlite, and maybe sheel letcha go up ter in ta U.P. an play dat utter corse at ta Graywals.  Bi ta way, I'm shur dey will likes ya fine 8) ;D ;) :P
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ed_getka

Re:The 11th at Kingsley
« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2004, 01:48:55 PM »
Dick,
  You are in rare form. You must be giddy to see the sun out here in Calif. 8)
"Perimeter-weighted fairways", The best euphemism for containment mounding I've ever heard.