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Jimmy Muratt

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Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« on: March 04, 2004, 02:35:48 PM »
Here is a very good read from the new issue of T&L Golf regarding Gil Hanse's views on bunkers.  The second to last paragraph is very interesting and discusses some of the techniques that he uses...


by Gil Hanse  

It's my fate as a golf course architect, whenever I first encounter a course and come away excited, to kick into high analytic mode. What separated this layout from the ordinary? What were the design elements that made it such a thrill to play and the total experience so appealing? More often than not, my answer is: the bunkers.

This may come as a surprise to some people who think of bunkers primarily as hateful things, places to avoid. But it shouldn't. On all but the most watery courses, bunkers do more than any other single feature to affect the overall look of a course and are also primarily responsible for creating the strategic challenges of each hole and defining a course's character.

My point of view regarding bunkers began to take shape during my master's-degree program in landscape architecture at Cornell, when I received a one-year fellowship to tour the British Isles and study the great golf courses there. Among the first courses I visited, naturally, was the Old Course at St. Andrews, and my eureka moment happened on the sixteenth hole, when I hit a perfect drive right down the center of the fairway but found my ball in one of three pot bunkers known collectively as the Principal's Nose. With a combined feeling of frustration and intrigue, I surveyed the position in which I had put myself. While it had occurred to me before that in some cases a straight, center-line drive could be a bad drive, it had never really struck me how much more fun it is to occasionally play holes like this—with quirky, extremely penal obstacles—than to play one safe, straightforward hole after another. In the case of the Old Course's sixteenth, a drive hit right of the Principal's Nose has to contend with a perilously close out-of-bounds line, but if it stays in, the player is rewarded with the easiest approach angle into the green. Drives to the left are safe, but the approach is far more difficult. It's a simple concept, really, but somehow on that day, experiencing firsthand the proportions, sight lines and angles of this great, time-tested hole, I felt as if I suddenly understood a great deal.

The scots understand bunkers better than anyone else. They know what types of bunkers most satisfyingly enhance the pleasure of the game, because they have literally centuries of experience with them. The first bunkers were created at St. Andrews and the other early seaside links courses more or less by accident, most likely by sheep and other livestock burrowing into the sides of the grassy dunes for shelter. Wind and water further eroded these depressions into distinct sandy pits, and golfers no doubt learned quickly to avoid these troublesome spots. At some point, however, people began to realize, "Hey, these bunkers make the game more fun! Let's keep these and build some more!" The early practitioners of golf architecture all modeled their courses on Scottish links. Even when the game moved inland, they meticulously re-created penal links-style bunkers.

By the second half of the twentieth century, however, with the advent of celebrity architects and mass-produced courses, bunkers started to lose this connection. A perception began to emerge that golf courses should be immaculately maintained from wall to wall. All too often, landing in a bunker these days isn't a penalty at all. High handicappers may scoff at this notion, but for Tour pros and most better club players, landing in a flat fairway bunker with smooth, uniform white sand (often mixed with wetting agents to help the ball sit up pretty) and little or no lip is preferable to landing in the rough and poses no more difficulty than a fairway lie at a comparable distance from the green. Such bunkers, found on many courses built over the past fifty years, flout the tradition of golf. If hazards are supposed to dictate the strategy of the game but don't exact a penalty, what precisely is their point?

A big part of the thrill of playing a well-designed course is not knowing, when you hit a shot toward a bunker, what kind of situation you'll find yourself in when you get there. If every bunker were a severe, automatic penalty, basically you'd have water—the ultimate hazard, which gained prominence only in the last century and which is far less fun to encounter. In bunkers, however, outcomes can vary widely. You might have a perfectly playable lie in the center of a sandy expanse. Or you might have a challenging lie with a high lip looming, requiring a sideways exit. Or you might find yourself in real trouble, such as with the ball buried in sand on a steep slope. The anticipation as you walk to the bunker, and the ensuing elation or despair depending on the lie, is an integral part of the classic golf experience, but one that the modern, primarily American insistence on pristine courses undervalues.

Many of the most esteemed courses in this country have bunkers of the old, rugged penal style. Pine Valley Golf Club, with its vast, unkempt waste areas, and Cypress Point Club, with its exquisite, natural-seeming bunkers that blend into the surrounding landscape, are two venerable examples. But a handful of modern architects have revived the classic bunker style, including Tom Doak at Oregon's Pacific Dunes and Ben Crenshaw and Bill Coore at Sand Hills Golf Club in Nebraska. Designing bunkers this way is not easy, which is one reason that modern architects favor less-imaginative bunkers (they can simply dispatch minimally trained bulldozer operators to excavate pits along fairways and greens and be done with it).

At Rustic Canyon, a course I designed in Simi Valley, California, with my partner Jim Wagner, we spent several months surveying the landscape to figure out how the fairways, greens and bunkers might best fit into the existing features with minimal earthmoving—attempting as best we could to mimic the way the great old links courses naturally settled themselves into the existing dunes landscapes over centuries of play. Then we personally spent weeks in the seat of a bulldozer carving out the bunkers, using all of our experience and exposure to classic courses to create natural-looking, strategically interesting and varied bunker challenges on each hole. The final piece was spending countless hours with codesigner Geoff Shackelford, working the bunker edges by hand and transplanting native vegetation.

One technique I frequently use is to clearly define the front edges of bunkers (those nearest the fairways and greens), which allows balls to enter the hazards, while leaving (or artificially making) the back sides in an unkempt and irregular state. Ideally I want the bunkers to seem to have eroded naturally amidst the surrounding plant life. Not only does this help create fun, serendipitous lies and situations, but it dramatically enhances the course's aesthetic appeal. When the transitions between the maintained parts of a course and its natural surrounds are seamless (even if significant artifice was required to achieve that effect), the course as a whole can be an inspiration.

The more that a course seems to be an integrated part of nature rather than an artificial construct, the more likely players are to come away from a round feeling exalted. Good bunkering not only establishes a clear link to the surrounding landscape, it also requires a golfer to think. The combination of food for the eye and food for the brain is a constant on any great golf course, and a concept that I believe needs to be re-emphasized. *

French Creek #15


French Creek #9



Kelly Blake Moran

Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2004, 03:18:06 PM »
With all the rancor i have participated in on the rater threads, i would be remiss by not dropping a postive note.  I have personally witnessed French Creek and it is stunning.  My wife's cousin has joined so I look forward to playing it this Spring.  As a side note, Gil speaks mostly of the beautification of bunkers but also the strategic placement.  I would put priority on strategic placement over beauty and appearence, and i am certain he would speak more of strategic placement if the subject of the article were not more about beauty.

Mike_Cirba

Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2004, 03:19:46 PM »
A superb article, and one that truly deserves 14 GCA pages of our thoughts and time.  

THuckaby2

Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2004, 03:24:25 PM »
Concur.

But as is often the case when great articles such as this are posted, what can one add other than "that was great, he knows what he's talking about"?

Note that I don't appreciate Jimmy posting this - I surely do - it was a great read - but if this gets to 14 pages I'll print each page and eat them.  I don't anticipate any future meals of mushu gca.  Sad but true.

 ;D
« Last Edit: March 04, 2004, 03:28:07 PM by Tom Huckaby »

Joe Hancock

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Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2004, 04:17:34 PM »
Tom,

Consider this my contribution to a hopeful 14 pages!

Joe
" What the hell is the point of architecture and excellence in design if a "clever" set up trumps it all?" Peter Pallotta, June 21, 2016

"People aren't picking a side of the fairway off a tee because of a randomly internally contoured green ."  jeffwarne, February 24, 2017

THuckaby2

Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2004, 04:23:05 PM »
Well Joe, here's the kind of guy I am, I'm matching you.

And I truly hope I do get to enjoy some GCA fritters.  

I'm just not warming up the grill just yet.

BTW, I have no real point to make here, and I truly do hope I am wrong.  It's more of a commentary on how things tend to go, that's all.

TH

Mike_Cirba

Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2004, 04:27:37 PM »
Tom Huckaby;

Just because I want to watch you eat 14 pages of GCA thread, I will pose the following question to our brethren;

"Would you compare and contrast the bunkers in the pictures to the new ones on the 18th hole at Baltusrol?"

Hmmm...nevermind....just kidding folks....

(Putting on my best patrolman's voice at an accident scene) "Keep moving...nothing happening here...everything's over...go home to your families"   ;)

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« Last Edit: March 04, 2004, 04:30:34 PM by Mike_Cirba »

Joe Hancock

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Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2004, 04:30:58 PM »
Concur.

But as is often the case when great articles such as this are posted, what can one add other than "that was great, he knows what he's talking about"?



 ;D

Tom,

You won't be eatting pages, because this staement of yours is dead on. There really isn't much room for debate or lengthy discussion after something so well put.

Disappointed,

Joe  :)
" What the hell is the point of architecture and excellence in design if a "clever" set up trumps it all?" Peter Pallotta, June 21, 2016

"People aren't picking a side of the fairway off a tee because of a randomly internally contoured green ."  jeffwarne, February 24, 2017

THuckaby2

Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2004, 04:46:28 PM »
Mike and Joe, I'm gonna continue doing my part to make a meal out of this.   ;D

You know what might get this to 14 pages?  If Gil Hanse himself came on, answered Mike's question, and also compared it to the work done at Yale golf course.  Give me all that and I shall dig out the recipe for GCA a la king.

TH

Mike_Cirba

Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2004, 04:49:22 PM »
Tom;

If he did that, I would eat the thread, as well.  I thought you were going to get really daring, and mention Merion's new bunkers, :-X, as well.  

Jimmy Muratt

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Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2004, 04:52:10 PM »
Here are a few more shots at French Creek....

#5, short par 3


#10, par 3, I love the greensite here with the bunkers front right and the fall off to the back left of the green.  


#16, par 5, view from the tee, hole bends to the left


#18, par 4, view from the landing area if you choose to lay back instead of carrying the bunker on the corner of the dogleg.


Mike_Cirba

Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2004, 04:56:35 PM »
Speaking of Merion, looking at those pics I'm having flashbacks to a time when I seem to remember bunkers like that at a world famous course.





Coincidence?  
« Last Edit: March 04, 2004, 04:59:37 PM by Mike_Cirba »

THuckaby2

Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2004, 05:03:37 PM »
Uh oh.

 ;D

TH

Jeff_Mingay

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Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2004, 05:10:55 PM »
No coincidence, Mike. I recall during my last visit to Merion (before the comprehensive bunker work completed recently), admiring the bunkers at 7 and 9 that had been reworked by Gil and Bill Kittleman. They were some of the best looking bunkers on the course. They looked old, but had in fact just been refashioned!

Gil and his team are super-talented (Gil's a great writer, too, isn't he?). I visited French Creek during construction, with Mike Sweeney. We spoke to Jim Wagner for a bit while he was stealing sod from an adjacent property and stacking it haphazardly atop the lips of bunkers. The stack sod was then hydro-seeded. Not a bad effect, eh? Those big ol' thick, rugged, grassy lips! Very cool.

French Creek looks fantastic.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2004, 05:12:26 PM by Jeff_Mingay »
jeffmingay.com

Mike Benham

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Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2004, 05:14:24 PM »
Mike and Joe, I'm gonna continue doing my part to make a meal out of this.   ;D

"Today, let my words be soft and sweet, for tomorrow, I may have to eat them"[/i]

Author:  Anonymous (died choking to death)
"... and I liked the guy ..."

Dan Herrmann

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Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2004, 05:23:35 PM »
You should see the bunkers on FC #15 that you don't see in these pics.  There's a long, deep, and narrow bunker to the right of the green that just eats balls.  It's genius.

The fun thing about the huge bunker on #16 is that you can actually shorten the hole by dozens of yards by driving into it.  If you happen to have a good lie, you're all set.  But you're just as likely to have a lie that you'll have nightmares about.  It's a classic risk/reward hole.

Lastly - the bunker on #10 is a lot tougher in person than it looks in the pics.  You can be a good 5 feet down with a green that slopes away from the bunker with heavy rough ready to accept a overly agressive shot.  When reviewing our best shots of the year, my wife Laura thinks that one of her bunker shots from #10 was her best shot of any type during the year.  

I had a chance to fly over French Creek on a flight from MSP to PHL last week, and those bunkers are certainly visible from 10K feet!  It was pretty cool seeing 18 at French Creek at 36 at Stonewall together from the air.


Eric took some great pics that you can see at http://www.fcgcnewsletters.com/RecentPhotosFall2003.htm

Jimmy - Thanks for the article - when are you comin' up to play?  Can't wait!
« Last Edit: March 04, 2004, 05:33:41 PM by danherrmann »

Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2004, 05:52:04 PM »
Something I always seem of having trouble trying to convey to the positive opinions of the new Merion bunkers is:

Can you believe it, a little public course in Moorpark, California has better bunkers then one of my favorites in the Game--Merion Golf Club.

Let this smorgesboard of a thread open. I want to eat.

RJ_Daley

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Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2004, 05:54:02 PM »
Gil Hanse and Jim Wagner truly deserve the moniker of bunkermeisters.  I can not wait to see what they come up with in the Sand Hills.  When they reach this stage of craftsmanship, it is hard to say if one has a favorite amongst the real bunkermeisters of the GCA field.  I hope that Gill takes full advantage of the sand hill environment to put all of his observations about centerline bunkering, and counter intuitive placements that force brain power to play arond them or from them.  I hope his site has some natural blowouts and that he finds it challenging to place certain strategic bunker amongst the field of natural blow-outs and challenge the critics to identify which areas are natural and which are crafted.
No actual golf rounds were ruined or delayed, nor golf rules broken, in the taking of any photographs that may be displayed by the above forum user.

Joe Hancock

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Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2004, 05:56:54 PM »
Tommy,

I'm famished.

Are we able to sustain this thread while keeping the original post as the main course? Unfortuntely, I doubt my experiences and knowledge will be around for pages 2-14. I will, however, try to interject my usual smart aleck responses from time to time to accomplish, the savory, sweet rewards!

JOe
" What the hell is the point of architecture and excellence in design if a "clever" set up trumps it all?" Peter Pallotta, June 21, 2016

"People aren't picking a side of the fairway off a tee because of a randomly internally contoured green ."  jeffwarne, February 24, 2017

Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2004, 06:14:34 PM »
Joe,
Hows this for starters.

As Jeff Mingay has pointed out, Merion had Gil Hanse & Co. there, and the bunkes completed were not only outstanding, from pictures, there isn't even a comparison how bad the new ones are.  They have constant problems with bunker lips and faces crumbling and frankly they don't look like Merion bunkers, they look like shit.

My food anaolgy of them is the same as going to a Chinese restaurant for a hamburger.

Joe Hancock

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Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2004, 06:17:46 PM »
What are the chances that pictures exist of Gil's bunkers vs. the Merion bunkers that look like feces?

Joe
" What the hell is the point of architecture and excellence in design if a "clever" set up trumps it all?" Peter Pallotta, June 21, 2016

"People aren't picking a side of the fairway off a tee because of a randomly internally contoured green ."  jeffwarne, February 24, 2017

Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2004, 06:37:33 PM »
Joe, I'll have to dig them up, but it might not be today. Too many things I'm working on at the moment and not enough time to get them done.

Joe Hancock

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Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2004, 06:54:14 PM »
Tommy,

As long as they appear before page 12, we'll be ok......

Doing my part,

Joe
" What the hell is the point of architecture and excellence in design if a "clever" set up trumps it all?" Peter Pallotta, June 21, 2016

"People aren't picking a side of the fairway off a tee because of a randomly internally contoured green ."  jeffwarne, February 24, 2017

Jeff_Mingay

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Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2004, 07:54:40 PM »
Tommy,

I think the bunkers at 9 in Mike Cirba's photo above are Gil's work, aren't they?
jeffmingay.com

Mike_Cirba

Re:Gil Hanse's thoughts on Bunkers
« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2004, 08:17:42 PM »
Jeff;

Yes, they are.

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