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Today's Equipment Hasn't Obsoleted Garden City
« on: March 03, 2004, 07:13:02 PM »
Yesterday's did.


Patrick_Mucci

Re:Today's Equipment Hasn't Obsoleted Garden City
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2004, 08:35:14 PM »
SPDB,

The giant club has been preserved.

One of the hurdles that stands in the way of equipment obsoleting GCGC is the cross bunkering or cross roughs that are abundant on the golf course.

# 3   has cross bunkers
# 4   has a 1/2 to 3/4 cross bunker off the tee and another
        about 90 yards short of the green
# 5   has pinched bunkers, narrowing a sloped fairway.
# 7   has cross rough
# 8   has cross rough and bunkers
# 9   has a cross bunker
# 10 has a cross bunker
# 11 has a partial cross bunker
# 13 has a cross bunker
# 15 has a cross bunker
# 17 has cross rough

These features tend to rein in the long ball.

But, if one looks at the competitive course records, they've certainly tumbled as of late.

Years ago, when RTJ was playing, advances in equipment were few and far between, today they seem like every new season brings substantive change.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2004, 08:37:26 PM by Patrick_Mucci »

SPDB

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Re:Today's Equipment Hasn't Obsoleted Garden City
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2004, 08:44:21 PM »
But Pat - weren't those features extant when Behr wrote this? I thought it was interesting for a couple of reasons:

1. Behr offers very candid opinions of the course, in a friendly letter to the club.
2. The arms race is by no means peculiar to recent times.
3. Behr's foresight, as in all things, on the impact of technology on the golf course.  

Patrick_Mucci

Re:Today's Equipment Hasn't Obsoleted Garden City
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2004, 08:54:26 PM »
SPDB,

Certain features resist technology better then others, and cross bunkers and cross roughs, which are plentiful at GCGC have stemmed the tide, along with sloped greens.

Behr's dissatisfaction was probably arrived at over an extended period of time.  I suspect, if he were witnessing what was going on today, he'd be out of ink and paper.

Behr's letter reflects his masked displeasure with the  outlawing of the "STYMIE". ;D

Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Today's Equipment Hasn't Obsoleted Garden City
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2004, 09:27:33 PM »
Excellent stuff Sean.

I'm going to take a gamble and say that even back then that Golf was a much different Sport that many of us have never had the fortune to know, or experience, and in some cases  have simply forgot.

I'm with Pat. Bring back the Stymie and play it as it lies.

SPDB

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Re:Today's Equipment Hasn't Obsoleted Garden City
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2004, 12:28:02 AM »
Ah no, Pat. As you may recall, your thread - "Isn't the objective to get the ball into the hole in as few strokes as possible" (or some reasonable approximation) - barred you from advocating the stymie ever again.

Tommy - would you like to be Advocate #1 for the return of the stymie. The job's vacant.


Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Today's Equipment Hasn't Obsoleted Garden City
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2004, 02:59:39 AM »
Unfortunately can't help with that one Sean, I'm too busy trying to get the Floater reinstated.

Did you know that Max Behr played that ball till the day he died, not long after this letter to GCGC was written?

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